Given the reads and configuration, specifically V1 X/C flop, pretty standard B/F unless you have a live tell. V2 has a bunch of 8X hands in his range.

Results: Hero moves and and V1 snap calls, V2 snap folds. Hero loses to 98s.

amirite?

Lol, i guess someone is curious of results.

Hero tanks and trying to range villain accurately in the heat of the moment. As mentioned earlier in the thread, villain 2 doesent ever show up with AJ or JJ+ here-based on my more than 1000 hours with him he doesent ever slowplay big overpairs in a spot like this. So that makes his valuerange very narrow on this board, if i am beat its only by 8x exclusively. I end up going with it shipping it in there. Villain 1 instafolds and villain 2 calls of course and tables 7-8 off for trips.

I still think his range consist of lots of semibluffs here based on how incredibly wide he is with his hand selection,mostly big flushdraws and i dont block any of the flushcombos cause i have KJ diamonds myself here. But i do think its possible that the presence of fish villain 1 in this hand as mentioned from other posters makes him more weighted towards 8x combos when he raises the flop and more weighted to play draws more passively in this spot.

I'm not sure this answer will satisfy your question, but what I would focus on here is a lot of what I wrote at the top of my first post. You seem to have enough table time with V2 to know his modus operandi is to gamble small/not big via flop hunting wide and smash/dashing - that's his bread and butter. I've seen enough of this type to know his frustration with you on his left is just an honest expression of roadblocking his strategy, forcing him to pay up more pre/post, and overall making it tougher to fishstomp - It is unlikely enough to make him get outside of that MO and start battling you. That's the gameflow piece... gameflow is subjective, but if you can accurately identify that he is getting well outside of what we know he is trying to do, then maybe you can uber-adjust and make money from that. To me though, it doesn't appear to be enough of a gameflow exploit to assume he isn't just valuetowning (paired w pretty laughable tells imo). You know what he is about, he is just right in his sweet spot (you bet, fish calls, he has 8x which means he can commit 500 against fish/doesn't care about your smaller stack if he's somehow behind). You also know he HAS tons of limp-called 8x (so his value range is NOT narrow from a combo perspective) and his line is very consistent with maximizing when he binks.

Solid post and well put. I agree after thinking about it for a few days, it may be too thin to go with it considering my whole range and that he probably is more weighted towards 8x in this spot when fish is in the hand. I guess combodraws or strong flushdraws is alot better stackoff for me here cause i dont draw so thinly if i am up against 8x.

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I’ll add that betting flop with TPGK against limp callers is super standard. The nature of a limp caller is to be passive anyway, so when a winner in your game is actually fishy enough to limp call 87o then you probably should be betting everything that isn’t a clear check.