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03-20-2018 , 09:57 PM
V is an older recreational player, loose/passive/sticky pre. No concrete reads on postflop, but doesn't seem particularly aggressive.

Effective stacks are about $240. What's our line/decision once we start getting over 100-150BB? I'm not really sure what I beat here, but felt committed anyway. Will a passive guy sometimes protect random Ax (maybe w/ a h-K)? I sort of banked on that & just couldn't envision stuff like KhTx semibluffs doing this.Thanks for thoughts.

Hero ($400): Ac 2c

Fold x 3, V limps $3, H r $20, fold x 4, V calls

F ($44): Ah 7h 2h

V x, H b $30, V r $105, H r $220 all in
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03-20-2018 , 10:15 PM
Thats about all you can do here. V likely flopped the flush, if he didn't and you got beat then it is a cooler.
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03-20-2018 , 10:38 PM
What is our position?

Raising A2s pre vs multiple loose/sticky players is a marginal play at best.

AP, even if he does this with all his Kx, the rest of his range has us in jail pretty much. I'd think long and hard about folding here.
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03-20-2018 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Viral25
What is our position?

Raising A2s pre vs multiple loose/sticky players is a marginal play at best.

AP, even if he does this with all his Kx, the rest of his range has us in jail pretty much. I'd think long and hard about folding here.
Sorry, Hijack. It's basically the bottom of my range for isolating from MP, but fair enough.
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03-21-2018 , 12:10 AM
I like the iso if we're on the button/co

Flop bet is good. I fold to the raise given your reads that he's loose/passive. Seems like he's not doing this w/ enough (or any?) non-flush hands. I think it's actually a fairly trivial fold.
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03-21-2018 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by haha_TP
I like the iso if we're on the button/co

Flop bet is good. I fold to the raise given your reads that he's loose/passive. Seems like he's not doing this w/ enough (or any?) non-flush hands. I think it's actually a fairly trivial fold.
Agreed. I don’t think $50 into his $240 stack leaves us committed. And if your personal read is that he’s not too aggressive, I think I have to go with that and fold. Sticking in another $190 and him rolling over a flush where we’re dead to two outs just seems too likely here... but maybe I’m too MUBSY???

(If there were two to a flush draw, I love your move)
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03-21-2018 , 01:23 AM
No reason to 3bet the flop. It's much better to flat the flop then gii on a brick turn. Fold if the turn card brings another heart.

Honestly though, I probably fold flop. Villain is a loose-passive which means he probably doesn't semibluff enough. The hands which we're hoping to be up against, like KhXx or AxQh, are likely just flatting the flop.

Against an aggro opponent I would flat flop and gii on a brick turn, but against a loose-passive, we need to bet/fold here imo.
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03-21-2018 , 02:17 AM
Honestly I'd just fold flop. Given your description of V, I wouldn't expect him to go crazy with the naked Kh very often. I know a lot of older passive 1/2 players will often limp AK, and AK with the Kh is the only other realistic hand I can come up with that you're currently ahead of. The problem there is that AxKh is still a favorite over your hand. I'd just let it go and look for a better spot. You're often crushed here, and I have a hard time finding anything that you're a big favorite against.
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03-21-2018 , 03:08 AM
I laugh to myself about how bad I run, fold flop, tell him nice hand, and ask him to show. He will proudly flip over the flush. AA is probably the bottom of my GII range here. Calling it off with A2 definitely isn’t terrible, I just wouldn’t do it.
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03-21-2018 , 01:00 PM
If a raise is going to narrow the field HU in position, I'm cool with preflop. I typically overlimp at my tables where isolating is difficult, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad play to begin with especially if there are poorer players in the hand we're cool with inviting into a pot.

Thanks to the preflop raise the SPR is 5.5 which means stacks can go in trivially by the river. I'd probably bet slightly larger on the flop since I'm initially feeling committed and board is a bit drawy.

I probably throw up in my mouth a little facing the check/raise. Unless reads tell us otherwise, I doubt too many old guys who have been around the block are check/raising simply Ax here, and there is no mega draw to raise. This really does look like A7/77/22. Against older guys, unless I have a read otherwise, I might change my commitment plan mid-hand and nit fold.

ETA: I misread flop and thought there was just 2-to-a-flush. This brings in more hands that beat us (lean towards fold) but I guess also more semi-bluffing good hands (such as AxKh or something), although I think too many of those good semi-bluffing hands raise preflop. Still think I lean to a nit fold, but I'm a nit.

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03-21-2018 , 08:35 PM
Pre seems marginal given stack sizes to me.

AP, cbet is good, I'm folding to the reraise.
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03-22-2018 , 02:52 PM
Spoiler:
V had A9ss (!?!?) Fortunate in hindsight that he was this light. Thanks for the replies.
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