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Old 04-20-2019, 02:37 AM   #1
AngryDingo
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1/3 turn overbet spot

villian is MABG. Played with him for about 3 hours so far, haven't seen him get out of line at all, likes to call PF. Only hand i saw him showdown, he called an EP raise, and called a cbet on something like T96 flop and check down T9s for the winner. OTTH

I open UTG with 77 to 15, folds to villian in CO who flats, all fold, heads up

(eff stack ~500)

(pot 33)flop comes AsKh4c

I lead for 22, villian calls after about 5 seconds

(pot 77)turn 8c I lead for 120....
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Old 04-20-2019, 05:05 AM   #2
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

I'm kinda ok with the cbet, but i'm generally only 2barrelling this spot for this sizing if i have exactly QcJc or JcTc or KK. Also it would help if the A was a , since he is never folding Acxc.

What extra fold equity do we gain by betting 120 here instead of 90, or even 65? Specially vs this guy i'd rather just 3barrel for normal sizings.

To be entirely clear, i'm just giving up ott the vast majority of the time. It's just not that good of a spot.
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:22 AM   #3
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

i guess i should have added that I have a tight and winning image

i'm trying to get him to fold an Ace here
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:37 PM   #4
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

I typically just limp 77 UTG (I now fold 66 so it's borderline whatever). Your raise managed to get this HU (unexpected in my game) albeit OOP, so whatever.

I'm fine with a cbet. We could be best (but very vulnerable) and we could get better to fold.

I don't get the turn oversizing at all. If we feel we must continue (and we shouldn't feel that) then there is much more merit in a very small bet, imo. A very small bet will apply just as much pressure to mediocre hands due to the threat of a big bet on the river. And meanwhile we don't own ourselves for huge $$$ against the nuttish end of his range. ETA: I also wouldn't put all our eggs into one basket concentrating on such a narrow part of his range (i.e. he has a lot more than just Ax here).

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Old 04-22-2019, 01:54 PM   #5
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

I normally bet turn here as our range is uncapped and his small aces will have to fold or risk a big river bet. This player sounds passive though, he flopped top two and never made a bet himself, just called flop and checked down.This makes me think a check here is best
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:58 PM   #6
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

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I normally bet turn here as our range is uncapped and his small aces will have to fold or risk a big river bet. This player sounds passive though, he flopped top two and never made a bet himself, just called flop and checked down.This makes me think a check here is best

Doh, I biffed the hand I saw villian showdown. The flop on that hand was T8x, giving him top pair with T9s. Overall I have him pegged as loose passive and straightforward
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:05 PM   #7
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Re: 1/3 turn overbet spot

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i guess i should have added that I have a tight and winning image

i'm trying to get him to fold an Ace here
regardless of your image that is a losing strategy at 1/3 especially against a loose-passive like you describe in OP. you need a better read than what you described in the OP to believe he will be able to fold Ax on an Ahi board.
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