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1/3 Turn makes us set of Jacks, but FD gets there too 1/3 Turn makes us set of Jacks, but FD gets there too

01-26-2019 , 09:05 AM
1/3 NLHE effective stacks $250ish

3-4 limpers. Hero is dealt JJ in the cutoff.
Raise to $25
Two callers. Both villains are OOP against hero

Pot is about $85
Flop is 763
Bet $75, one player folds, Villain calls

Turn is J
Villain checks to hero

What would you do in this spot?

Last edited by Aulm; 01-26-2019 at 09:28 AM. Reason: Added Villains positions
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01-26-2019 , 09:18 AM
V has position on you? I'd check to him, let him fire a bluff and call him down. V generally doesn't put you on a flush draw from your bet size on the flop. Too strong of a hand and too much in the pot for me to consider folding.
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01-26-2019 , 09:28 AM
I was in position against all others in the hand. Villain checked turn to me. Description updated
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01-26-2019 , 09:45 AM
I'd check turn, and call down any river card and shove river if he checks. I'll consider checking behind if another club comes up. At this point I'm trying to get all the chips in the pot.

Last edited by donkdreams; 01-26-2019 at 09:50 AM.
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01-26-2019 , 06:53 PM
Depends on the villain, tbh, but in a vacuum with these stack sizes, no problem taking the free card.
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01-26-2019 , 09:58 PM
What do we know about villain.

A lot of straightforward villains would bet here with the flush (particularly a baby flush). His range has tons of other stuff. In a vacuum I'm betting here again.
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01-26-2019 , 10:38 PM
Villain is a WOG (slang for Lebanese-Australian). Young guy in his twenties. Wearing a baseball cap. Has a big stack and has been winning a lot.

I remember that he did limp into a pot with an unsuited A.
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01-27-2019 , 01:36 AM
$235 in the pot and we have $150 behind? I just ship it in. If he was on a flush draw, oh well.
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01-27-2019 , 01:43 AM
Ship it. Value vs pockets with a club, sets, AcJx, maybe the naked Ac. Protection vs random single clubs. Avoid being bluffed off a 4th river club if turn is checked through.
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01-27-2019 , 02:36 AM
shippidy ship
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01-28-2019 , 06:00 PM
I went AI on the turn. Villain had A4c
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01-29-2019 , 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aulm
I went AI on the turn. Villain had A4c
Did you remember to boat up on the river?
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01-29-2019 , 02:17 AM
Haha, no I missed the boat, and fell flush into the cooler waters of the casino sea.
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01-29-2019 , 02:18 PM
I'm fine with preflop. I might even go slightly larger with this less robust hand (it sees a lotta terrible flops) but overall we got in 10% of stacks preflop, so I'm fine with it.

SPR is like 2.5 and board is super drawy and we have an overpair so we're easily committed. I think at this stack depth in this big a pot on this drawy a board (where stacks can go in *fairly* easily in my typical 1/3 NL game) I think you could argue for simply shoving the flop. But otherwise a big ~PSB to setup an easy peasy turn shove is fine too.

Not the greatest of turn cards but it doesn't really matter. We only have 2/3 PSB left, we can still boat up if behind, we can still easily be ahead of lots of hands that willing to get it in, and giving a free card here when committed would be horrible. Trivial ship.

Ghandisplayedwellifweshippedtheturn,imoG
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01-30-2019 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I'm fine with preflop. I might even go slightly larger with this less robust hand (it sees a lotta terrible flops) but overall we got in 10% of stacks preflop, so I'm fine with it.

SPR is like 2.5 and board is super drawy and we have an overpair so we're easily committed. I think at this stack depth in this big a pot on this drawy a board (where stacks can go in *fairly* easily in my typical 1/3 NL game) I think you could argue for simply shoving the flop. But otherwise a big ~PSB to setup an easy peasy turn shove is fine too.
Thanks. Yeah I think you have a good point about the bet size PF and on the flop. PSB on the flop would have been better.... even more so if I had made it 30-35 PF. Good to takeaway something to improve on from this hand.
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