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1/3 Turn equity but face overbet jam 1/3 Turn equity but face overbet jam

12-09-2018 , 07:23 AM
Very loose and splashy game - lots of calling, raising, and squeezing pre and post

Hero (UTG) $300 - playing tight, just lost a big pot when 2 players called my big squeeze pre and flopped a set vs my TP. No one saw. Have folded to aggression post but my showdowns are limited

V1 (UTG +1) $300 - loose player pre but really gambles post, shoving turn with bottom pair, mid pair, TP, air on top of other villains field bets or pfr dbl barrels

V2 (MP) 1k+ - calls pre and post super wide eg K4o, Q8. Can bluff if checked to and float with air. Likes to raise TP

V3 (MP) $600 - Tighter than V2, V1, but still too loose overall

Hero limps w/ A9 V1 makes it 10, V2,V3 and one other call and I call as well

Flop A75 (50)
H checks, V1 20, V2 calls, V3 reluctantly calls, 1 fold, H calls

Turn 8(130)
H checks, V1 shoves 270, V2 folds, V3 thinks for a while and folds , Hero ??

Call or fold turn?? Feel free to comment on pre / flop
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12-09-2018 , 09:33 AM
I check/fold the flop.

If you check the turn, you have to fold now. Against different players I would sometimes Id lead the turn with a small bet and sometimes Id bomb it. In this spot, I check/fold.
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12-09-2018 , 01:01 PM
with a bet and 2 calls on the flop im leaning towards a fold, you were at the game and claiming that it was very loose so fair enough I don't hate it;

Do you think you need to improve vs his whole range? I can't see him having too many bluffs here betting into 3 players for 2X pot;
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12-09-2018 , 01:09 PM
call, just too much equity. sucks when we are up against a set or a straight, but, like maybe he does this with like 910s ocasionally. heck vs 2 pair we are almost flipping.

also its important that we have a9d and not 109s our self. having the ace and occasionally being ahead with top pair really helps our equity.

Last edited by josofo; 12-09-2018 at 01:28 PM.
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12-09-2018 , 01:14 PM
I don't even think about this, I just snap call vs described villain
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12-09-2018 , 01:21 PM
Vs this guy, I'm pretty happy calling the turn for 100bb total.
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12-09-2018 , 01:49 PM
If you’re description of villain is correct, this has to be a call. If you’re not calling in this spot, then villain is just going to run all over you. This is a high variance but ultimately very profitable way to combat players who are too loose pre and too agro post. You kind of need to close your eyes and call them down with marginal hands. IMO.

Also I’m not limping UTG in these loose agro games. (I’m probably not limping UTG ever except in rare situations).




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12-09-2018 , 04:17 PM
How is anyone thinking of folding to this spazmeister?
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12-09-2018 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KID777777
Very loose and splashy game - lots of calling, raising, and squeezing pre and post

Hero (UTG) $300 - playing tight, just lost a big pot when 2 players called my big squeeze pre and flopped a set vs my TP. No one saw. Have folded to aggression post but my showdowns are limited

V1 (UTG +1) $300 - loose player pre but really gambles post, shoving turn with bottom pair, mid pair, TP, air on top of other villains field bets or pfr dbl barrels
Uh.... snap call? Pre is meh, i'd probably muck quick if there is that much raising/squeezing going on and we are first to act, and we are going to be oop

Flop is really dicey but ok, vs this price I'm not folding vs these donks. if it were 2/3 or bigger probably just letting it go.
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12-10-2018 , 04:22 AM
Snap call vs maniac.
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12-10-2018 , 01:34 PM
Preflop is meh cuz we know that at an action table we're likely going to face a raise (so we're never getting into a pot for cheap) and we'll be OOP (harder to play and get paid off OOP). I used to think Axs was likely profitable in EP, but now I think it isn't, although with these crazies maybe it is. In the end we got in for relatively cheap so ok.

I might just fold the flop since 3 others are already interested and we have no real draw (plus our 9 has some RIO against 86).

Is V1 really crazy enough to overjam the turn against 3 opponents? Really looks like he's just made his piece of cheese and is looking to get paid off. So now it's just a matter of how many outs we likely have and whether we're getting a good enough price. Doubt we have enough outs / are ahead enough facing a 2x PSB bet so I fold.

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