1/3, hand is in a vaccuum

Hero raises to $15 with TT in EP, gets 2 callers, one in MP, one in LP

Flop ($50): 5d 5h 4d
Hero bets $40, MP calls, LP folds

Turn ($130): 3c
Hero checks, MP checks (he has $200 behind)

River ($130): Kc
Hero bets $50, MP folds

Did I play this hand badly? I checked turn to pot control and led river for value incase he has 88/99 type hands. Should we just bet big OTT and put him AI otr instead? IDK how to play these hands in general.

I think against 1 player I bet again, still have flush draws, some gutshots, worse overpairs to get value from, plus unpaired over cards if they are real bad.

If it was still 2 opponents, I might lean more towards checking.

But the problem with betting is they would most possibly fold their worse overpairs when we bet OTT again and only call with better.

Also, when you check, I assume you're planning to check/call? What's your plan then OTR? Check/call again? Isn't that giving them the lead? You might as well bet it yourself then, right?

Mistakes I see in this hand:

#1 - your turn check was not pot control. You are OOP. Checking is likely to induce a bigger bet from better hands, draws, and air.

#2 - you checked the brick and then value bet the scare card. I think it's obvious why you don't want to do this.

#3 - you should be okay with getting in here. Stacks were well below 100 bb's. You aren't against a known nit. You aren't viewed as a nit. You put in a decent preflop raise. You hit the flop about as hard as you can hit it without making a set. AND your bets look FOS - V may feel good about his small PP by the turn if that is what he has.

^^^ Why do my bets look FOS? Infact, they look exactly like a big pair when I bet turn again and I don't think V is calling me with worse.

Given your preflop raise, your flop bet looks like a c-bet with a whiffed hand. (Many V's see you as having a big Ace close to 100% of time when you raise pre.) Obviously, the turn bet looks a good deal stronger, but I think you get called light often enough here, especially if V has a little latent paranoia in him. From there, given stacks, everyone who isn't drawing is committed.

Pocket 10's OOP is a high variance hand. Sometimes, you need to go with it. If it's not in you, set-mine. If you bet preflop, you need to have a plan for the hand if you don't flop a set.

Note - if you hadn't raised 9% of effective stacks pre, you would absolutely NOT want to get it all in. The preflop raise was the best thing you did in this hand if you like postflop poker.

I try to keep the pot small unless I flop TPTK/set. Hence, my cautious play here.

If that is the case, I would not raise pocket 10's from EP.

Oh okay, so limping is fine? What about JJ?

You have better than TPTK. Also, we should think more about what he has and less about what we do

just because you are trying to keep the pot small doesn't mean you don't raise 10s from EP.

your raise pre is fine. flop bet is fine.

turn check i can go either way. i agree that if you check it makes it look like you have AK and you are giving up. you have to be prepared to call if you check here, though.

It's villain-dependent, obviously. But if you're up against someone who is capable of bluffing, I like this line just fine.

Your pf, flop, and turn bets just scream overpair. And the 5543 board is bad for an overpair. If I'm the villain, I float your flop bet with a huge range. If you bet the turn, I raise or fold. I raise with trips, most overpairs, most draws, and occasional air. I fold a4.

Checking the turn will induce a bet from a lot of that range, but it'll also encourage me to take the free card with my draws. I'm now thinking that you have a big pocket pair and plan to check-call for value. I can choose between betting big on two streets, trying to represent a straight or low trips, or taking the free card. I'll often take the free card rather than commit to a two-barrel bluff that fits into your most likely plan.

So checking the turn means you're unwilling to play a big pot with this hand. But it'll also shut down a lot of likely bluffs. And you *are* unwilling to play a big pot with this hand, and you will face a lot of bluffs. Seems like a reasonable line.

Stop pot controlling. There are a lot of reasons we might have for checking the flop, but none of them are because we're not in the mood to win a big pot off of A3-A4 / 66-99.

If I'm playing readless against some non-descript MAWG, I'd just $25 / $50 / x/c any non A / 2 / diamond (6 / 7 feels close).

I vote 30 otf half pot ott; make a decision on riv more so x

Grunch:
when i see this hand im usually thinking of minimum of 2 streets of value and sometimes 3 (but it always depends on reads). If we take this arbitrary hand for example don't often expect many villains from MP to show up with 5x here. Usually he shows up with 66+, FD+SD in this situation. If we read him for mainly pairs and draws i'd bet the turn here often, check it sometimes and look for SDV on the river depending on the river card.... AP, i think 2 street of value with TT is fine, i'd bet the river on the blank 3c almost always

based on what you're saying this? if the turn card is a J, how many 99 are folding to a DB? We don't know because it's always villain/situation dependent.


Also, at low stakes i wouldn't worry too much about giving up the lead with TT as much as getting to SD as cheaply as I can, IMO.





Again, we don't know if checking will or won't induce a bigger or smaller bet from "better" hands, it's villain/situation dependent.

Hero didn't provide any information that indicates villain or hero as a NIT/not a nit so don't know where you got that information. How does hero's bet looks like FOS? We don't know how villain feel about his small PP since hero hasn't provided any information that he knows about how villain feels about small PP on this kind of board....


um, what?


ok, stop trolling! Raising 3-5x pre flop in live poker is standard. TT falls under one of the better pre-flop starting hands so dunno WTF you're talking about not raising it pre-flop from EP.... why would you want to strictly limit yourself and plat TT to set mine?

Turn check is fine, not sure how I feel about the river bet

I'm not sure if you should double barrel but i am sure you should check the river as played. Why? Because you get more value from his range by doing this. How? When you bet at the K he's going to fold his missed FD/SD and may conceivably fold 88 because you rep a K so well that he's going to figure he's beat. So you get value from so so little. However if you check on the K he now has the opportunity to take a FD/SD and bluff with it and you can happily c/c. Why is it an easy call? His range is primarily FD/SD with this line and not much Kx at all. When he checks behind his 88 on the river you make the same amount of money against that hand as you would if you bet (nothing) but you make more money against his missed draws thus its a superior strategy to check/call riv.

If the flop were rainbow I would consider checking ott some % of the time, however with the fd on board I feel like we have more reason to bet in this case.