1/3, 275-300 effective, Fish is a reg who never folds to Hero's PFR and flop cbets with TP type hands because he knows Hero cbets 100% but will give up to turn/river aggression if he doesn't have good equity, has bluffcaught Hero multiple times in big pots including river shoves.

Fish limps UTG
Hero raises to $18 UTG+2 with AK
Another caller
Fish calls

Flop (55): A63cdd
Fish checks, Hero bets 45, fold, Fish calls

Turn (145): 9d
Fish checks, Hero checks

River (145): 7d
Fish checks, Hero checks



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I table is loose/aggro, I would often overlimp here going for a limp/reraise. As played, we managed to narrow the field to 3ways and in position on one of the players, so not a bad result.

Bottom line for me is that we can't stack off postflop with TP having given 2 opponents decent implied odds preflop. The tricky thing with going 3ways (as opposed to HU) is that the SPR is so much different. 3ways it is ~5, which is incredibly easy to get in stacks (which we don't want to), whereas HU it would have been ~8 (setting up an easy pot control route). The difference between HU and 3way is so huge sometimes, making for a difficult spot.

Anyways, I would probably bet less on the flop. Again, I'm not looking to play for stacks, and a bigger bet just gets us on our way to doing that. I probably only bet 1/2 PSB and see what happens.

I also check back the turn. It's a bad card, we definitely don't want to commit stacks now with a bet, and thankfully we get to execute our pot control after all thanks to being in position on the flop caller.

The river is tricky because our opponent is a big bluff catcher against us, so I don't think we're going to fold out a small diamond enough against him. Against some players I might do a "diamond check" and turn my hand into a bluff. But against this guy, I would also just check back.

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sounds like you have some metagame with villain. As an overall strategy, you shouldn't be cbetting 100% vs a villain who won't fold to you.

On the flip side, when you do flop the effective nuts in this hand, I like your flop line and I also bet the turn vs this villain specifically. Not sure if you had this read before the hand, but if he's limp/calling Axoff then he has a ton of dominated aces in his range: over three times as many top-pair combos than flush draw combos. You miss getting value/protection by not betting the turn.

Gotta bet/fold tho. 80-100 seems good to set up stacks for river.

I ship a few good rivers and usually check back. Vs some villains I'd never bet turn or river. But this line is a function of the metagame. If this guy's really bluffcatching you and not folding, then you need to value-bet more thinly.

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Actually, with our history against Villain, maybe attempting to play for stacks postflop is correct, although there is another Villain in the hand. If we're looking to play for stacks, I might overbomb the flop to setup a turn shove.

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Fish doesn't really sound like a fish

Not sure I get your read.

You say the V doesn't fold top pair hands to c-bets? Sounds pretty normal.

Flop is fine.

Bet the turn for value. $80/fold. The diamond isn't that bad a card. V has a ton of Ax in his range. A bunch of his Ax has a weak flush draw now. Some doesn't. Still a value bet. And come on man - it's even more of a bet against this guy, given the dynamic of him calling you too often and all.

Yes, check back the diamond river.

I'm fine with the outcome.

It's not surprising you missed value on the turn.

I considered bluffing river, but I prefer to check it back because a) I don't think he's ever folding a flush that he backed into with his one-pair hands, and b) I rarely expect he has a better hand than you that is not a flush... results in this case are what they are.

I would bet the turn and fold to a c/shove or V calling and donking river.

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Bet fold turn. C/c river.

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So you guys want to put 50% of your stack in with a turn bet and then fold to a shove?

I believed the general trend on here was to check turn/bet river with TPTK type hands after scary turn runouts..

Read your own 'Fish' image .. Don't play a hand unless you are willing to double barrel!!

B/f this Turn all day please ...

Pretty much always checking back this River without a live read on V response to the 4-flush. I am more inclined to bet if Ad is on board .. not so much after a Flop AND TURN call of my 'value' bets. GL

With the non-flush Ace still 'out there' I'm more inclined to continue betting this Turn based on your V description. If he has the Ad, then I want to charge him for that 'extra' draw and am more than willing to check/fold a flush River.

Again .. based on the 'fact' that you get no information about his hand from your c-bet, you need to collect information on the Turn IMO. GL

The general trend is to extract value.

sounds like the fish owns your soul! given description of how he perceives you i think hes laying it down to the turn bet.fold line, putting us on an actual hand

Exactly. He lays a weaker hand down to a turn bet but probably calls a small river bet when turn goes check/check with worse aces.