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08-28-2014 , 10:05 PM
1/3 underground game.

Villain (400) is a thinking player but not much of a hand reader. Loose preflop and sometimes makes loose calls post flop. Can bluff. Just won a high hand bonus so is in a good mood.

Hero (400) is considered a good player at this game. Haven't shown down much but won a couple pots without showdown. Mostly raising or overlimping. Am known to be aggressive and capable of bluffing.


Hero is in CO with AJo villain is the button.

Folds to hero who opens to 15 and villain calls. Blinds fold.

Villain is very wide here. He is calling with most suited connectors, suited one gappers , any Ax suited, j9o + 22-99 and is probably capped at AQs . everything else I expect him to 3b.

Flop (30) J 3 7

Hero bets 25 . villain calls.

Villains range is all diamond draws. All his Jacks except maybe AJ or KJ which he may raise on this wet board. Possibly a 7 as well he would call with . I expect all sets to raise as well .


Turn (80) A

Hero ?

If we bet we get called/raised by flushes. We may get a call from a jack with a queen or king of diamonds and A7. Other than that I expect villain to fold everything we beat.

If we check we can get villain to bluff at it, bet his flush, or pair and flush draw. Also he might bet with the unlikely A7 or AJ.

What do we do ?





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08-28-2014 , 10:12 PM
You said his range is entirely diamond draws and the flush hits. Based on your read, wouldn't this just be a c/f?
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08-28-2014 , 10:20 PM
Well he has some Jacks in his range as well.

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08-28-2014 , 11:19 PM
c/c turn and probably c/c most rivers
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08-28-2014 , 11:41 PM
i suspect villains range is more than just diamond draws and jx

c/c would be kind of bad since villain likely isn't good enough to go for thin value.

he has plenty of worse hands that could call a turn bet like a3, a7, kj, qj, j7s, ak/aq/at that floated the flop in a spot where you're cbet bluffing quite often... he also has hands like 65s, 64s, and 54s where we can just fold out his equity share in the pot by betting

a lot of those hands cant really stand a large bet, so i think the best play is to bet $45/fold to a raise
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08-28-2014 , 11:42 PM
if you think he will bluff big then check. if you are wrong you are only putting money in when beat. and can give out free card.
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08-29-2014 , 11:07 AM
Depending on other opponents / stacks / etc., we're currently not in a great seat. We have a loose, getting deep, tricky opponent to our direct left. We should be thinking of a seat change.

We've create a largish SPR of ~13, so we have lots of room to take a bet/fold route on each street if we bet no more than 1/2 PSB. Although I'm not so sure we feel incredibly comfortable folding to this villain (although that's what we'll probably have to do). Another line is to check the flop and let aggro him hang himself. Against aggro/bluffy opponents, I'd probably prefer the latter line, especially since a street checking thru ain't the end of the world (i.e. we're cool with two streets of value with this hand).

On the turn, the more aggro the player, the more I check/call. The more straightforward the player, the more we can think about bet/folding. I probably prefer check/call because that way at least we give ourselves a chance at the nuttish 4 outer (where we could win a huge pot). And if villain has a weak hand, he probably can't pay off 2 more streets (although he could bluff us out of the pot). The only real drawback to checking is allowing the 4th flush card to come in, although I'm ok with risking that overall.

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08-29-2014 , 12:50 PM
most times i would rather bet and charge any draws. i hate giving free cards.
by betting i get value and can sometimes get away from the hand if beat already.

i tend not to fear losing to a better hand, but do not like letting someone catch up for free.
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08-29-2014 , 01:52 PM
If you think he has a diamond then it def a bet... Otherwise its a ck call...
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08-29-2014 , 03:44 PM
you dont know, hence the bet. thats the way i play it anyway.

plus you never know there may be other weird hands he may have played that can outdraw you and cost you plus a payoff on the river.

or worse case you get bluffed off as he isnt scared of your hand.
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08-30-2014 , 12:06 AM
This is not a hand i want to play for stacks with but to strong to not extract value against a villain with a very wide range

so i b/re eval flop(if he is capable of raising 10j+ a7/if not b/f)

b/f turn

b/f river(any non diamond river on diamond rivers i c/f and against some opponents who will NEVER bluff raise riv bet 7-11 lol)
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