Bet/fold != check/raise/fold

There is a world of difference to them with players of this skill level

I think it's different to say someone is going to bet/fold turn rather than x/r/fold. Not common to see someone x/r then fold turn.

The reason I wouldn't click it back isn't because I think V is going to fold. The reason is that I think V may check to us on river if we re-raise turn, while I think he'll lead river if we just flat.

Agreed that bet/fold != check/raise/fold.

Still disagree with Johnny that anyone folding to a reraise here isn't putting any more money in on the river (and MIB states the obvious case: he'll often lead it when we don't show extreme strength and just flat).

Basically just a minor quibble I had with Johnny's statement, but it doesn't affect this hand much. Villain has shown some pretty extreme strength here with the check/raise, so *if* (???) we're cool with playing for stacks then we should probably be targeting his strong hands and attempting to do so (either re-raising turn or shoving river, with the latter probably being better as it likelier to still keep in more mediocre hands which lol Villain ended up having).

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