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What's the purpose of a large flop bet? Are we thinking a large flop bet will fold an overpair? Or are we thinking we're going to get called by worse, so this is for pure value?

If not, then the only point of the flop bet is to protect against overcards (i.e. AK/AQs/etc.), and overcards are unlikely to call any "reasonable" bet, so might as well make it small, imo (I wouldn't have gone more than $50 myself).

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a small flop bet after a 3bet pot has absolutely no fold equity you are right. So if we are betting hoping to get called then we are behind everything and on top of that Villain range is unchanged so we are clueless after flop and we have no extra info.

So IMO we need to bet to either end this hand and take it down VS AK-AQ hands but if we called or raised we know we are beat and can correctly fold the hand.

I think if we are intent on not betting big/std here with K10 then checking flop is a better option.

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12-23-2014 , 06:55 PM

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spikeraw22

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...ussion-812501/

Specifically the section on dealing wih lags.

Your points are well taken but I think you're overestimating their value. I think it's suicide to purposely sit to the right of a lag generally speaking.

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12-23-2014 , 07:17 PM

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paperboyNC

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Didn't find the dealing with LAGs in the first post? On my phone now so hard to look extensively.

I see your point about not wanting to sit to the right of good lags. Most of the lags I play against are terrible.

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12-23-2014 , 08:04 PM

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MK7749

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Originally Posted by MK7749

can't seem to find edit button.

On flop let me clarify. If we bet small we are going to get called by a huge portion of his range. So because of this we won't be sure if we are ahead or behind on later streets basically making us go into showdown mode unless we hit our miracle.

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12-23-2014 , 08:58 PM

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spikeraw22

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Originally Posted by paperboyNC

Check the link on "position relative and absolute"

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12-24-2014 , 11:09 AM

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fizzypants

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Thanks guys, I agree that the turn bet is spew and it's just better to either check/go to showdown as cheap as possible now OR shove hoping JJ/QQ fold to tight Hero.

However, I see there's some lack of consensus on flop betsizing. Those who propose betting small on flop, are we betting small with our entire range then because it's dry enough?

Also, how are we playing JJ on future streets?

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12-24-2014 , 07:54 PM

#32

oh-nahhh

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I would check flop so fast...

I like pre though

wtf are you doing on turn?

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12-25-2014 , 06:09 PM

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fizzypants

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,851

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Originally Posted by oh-nahhh

I would check flop so fast...

I like pre though

wtf are you doing on turn?

Making a tilted play lol

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