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07-22-2021 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
What am I missing?

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Fine. Turn is a bet for this part of our range, period, fine, you agree.

Our bets are all AK/AQ, some AA, some sets, and some A9s. I don't want to hear about how our hand is face up AK.

The pot is 210bb and there are 2 twice-checking ranges and 3 ranges IP. I want to create an EV situation that wins most of this pot most of the time now. If the larger bet called, we still have a range of the hands to play rivers well. A smaller bet is going to create a situation that likely brings additional hands into play and w AK exactly things get thinner.

If you want to be less with A9/AA/99/and and 66 if you have it, then fine, exploit them that way, but all of this face up/make money from/what if the board were drawy stuff does not apply.
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07-23-2021 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Fine. Turn is a bet for this part of our range, period, fine, you agree.

Our bets are all AK/AQ, some AA, some sets, and some A9s. I don't want to hear about how our hand is face up AK.

The pot is 210bb and there are 2 twice-checking ranges and 3 ranges IP. I want to create an EV situation that wins most of this pot most of the time now. If the larger bet called, we still have a range of the hands to play rivers well. A smaller bet is going to create a situation that likely brings additional hands into play and w AK exactly things get thinner.

If you want to be less with A9/AA/99/and and 66 if you have it, then fine, exploit them that way, but all of this face up/make money from/what if the board were drawy stuff does not apply.
Is your issue that I'm saying our hand is face up AK when in reality I mean *pretty much at least AK*? There's no difference in what calls a PSB whether our perceived range is AK or whether it is AQ/AK/AA/othersets/toptwopair/etc.; whatever calls beats us. [ Or, I dunno, maybe you don't agree with that? Question: Are you expecting a worse hand to call a PSB? I'm not. ]

As I say, I could get behind a PSB if we only had a ~PSB left. In that case, it is clearly more about protecting our equity in a relatively big pot when we're committed than it is about ekeing out profit against worse. But otherwise, everything regarding being face up / what worse hands are paying us off / more worse hands could pay us off on drawy boards / etc. is completely applicable.

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