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06-25-2016 , 06:50 AM
Live 1/3 full ring $200 max bi

Hero (BTN): tag image. perceived as thinking player. stack has been fluctuating. had good hands pre in the last hour resulting in me isoing/squeezing 6 hands in the past 2 orbits. ~ 300

V1 (SB): tag, thinking player but on the nittier side. doesnt generally bluff. called a 4bet ship w/ QQ pre. old asian dude. ~ 600

V2 (UTG+1): loose passive, MAWG, seems pretty new to poker ~ 120

Pre ($4)
V2 opens to $12. 3 callers. Hero w/ AK 3bets to $65 (yeah i know this is a bit small but given table dynamic, anymore more gets folds way too often).

V1 tanks for 30 seconds, grabs a bunch of $100 chips and throws them gently in front of him. V2 tanks for 10 seconds, seeming genuinely frustrated, says "fuuck it" and calls. Folds to hero. is this close?
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06-25-2016 , 09:01 AM
Nope
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06-25-2016 , 11:41 AM
The way you describe yourself is not "tag/ thinking player". Most villains don't even think like that. They either see you as a winner or a loser, and as described they probably see you as gambly and are getting annoyed with your aggression. If you've raised 6 hands in the last 2 orbits and your stack is at $200 I highly doubt they're looking at you as some game crusher. No disrespect to you, it doesn't matter what they think. Just think you could be more aware of how your opponents are thinking. .

That being said I don't think this is a good spot. Did the Asian V 3bet when he had QQ? Most people at these stakes just don't shove with less than KK here, regardless of the blockers you have.
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06-25-2016 , 11:54 AM
You've just got to crunch some number man. My guess is that he always has QQ+, AK min and possibly KK+, AK. You have 265 to call into his 300+12x4+65 so 413.

Youll need 265/678=39% equity to call.

I'm not in front of an equity calculator, but my guess w AK vs his range and needing this equith is this is a pretty
easy fold.

*** I missed the other player. So 600+12x3+65=701.
265/966=27% equity to call. I would still give V1 the same range as above. To figure it all out I'd start by giving V2 at least an ace blocker and go from there to see if our equity is there. I'm gonna guess that it's still a fold but closer 3 ways.

Last edited by sungar78; 06-25-2016 at 12:00 PM.
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06-25-2016 , 05:07 PM
Pretty easy fold IMO. He's completely uncapped.
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06-25-2016 , 05:42 PM
Am I missing something? How deep are you guys that he "grabs a couple 100 chips and throws them in front of him" .... Isn't this 1/3?

Edit: AHhh says ~300, still though he just had a stack of black chips?
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06-25-2016 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nihcnahtan
V1 (SB): tag, thinking player but on the nittier side. doesnt generally bluff. called a 4bet ship w/ QQ pre. old asian dude. ~ 600

V2 (UTG+1): loose passive, MAWG, seems pretty new to poker ~ 120

Pre ($4)
V2 opens to $12. 3 callers. Hero w/ AK 3bets to $65 (yeah i know this is a bit small but given table dynamic, anymore more gets folds way too often).

V1 tanks for 30 seconds, grabs a bunch of $100 chips and throws them gently in front of him. V2 tanks for 10 seconds, seeming genuinely frustrated, says "fuuck it" and calls. Folds to hero. is this close?
I think this says it all. He wants to play for stacks when he had just $1 in the pot. Ask yourself if you're ever ahead here.
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06-26-2016 , 04:07 AM
not close to close
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06-26-2016 , 05:05 AM
there is over 60 in the pot before you put in your small raise. you only have 300. and you said you didnt raise more as they tend to fold. do you think its better to see the flop 5 handed for 65 a piece than to raise it all and win it right there.
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06-26-2016 , 07:53 AM
I slam it in without a second thought
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