You just hit on the heart and soul of this squeeze.

The Tag over callers have almost no 3 bet flat range (we block the majority of it)

You have already proven squeezing the UTG opener is profitable.

So the crux of the hand is wether the rec players are going to call th 3bet.

So in essence to a rec player. Raising to $60 or $75 preflop is going to have minimal bearing.

Plus the recs are going to be much easier to play postflop in 3 bet pot.

Our fold equity is easily approaching a profitable level. Add in hand equity. This is a slam dunk raise.

Now, back to how I would play the hand.

Fold!!!!! I play in small player pool. Have a reckless image.

But if I was goobly, or 60 years old with grey hair (crap, I am as grey as farve). This is easy squeeze.

"Recreational player call 2bet ranges 33%: QQ-22 AQ-A2 JT QT+ KT+ 32s+ 42s+ K2s+ Q2s+"

So recs dont play ofsuit hands now? This is way off imo.

nice spot for a squeeze. bad hand to do it tho...
I´m all for defending your bb very liberally, but this is just a fold pre.
nice post ragequit.

Ranges are way to small, for both recs and Tags.

UTG raises rarely get any respect. Everyone thinks they are Phil Ivey, and call in position,

Lol, pot odds

Tell me the last time you raised UTG and got the hand heads up.

Example 1/2
Nit reg, only raises AA,KK. (Everyone knows this)

Raised UTG, (Table was 200BB deep average)

5 callers to me on Button. I flatted 78o, went 7 ways to flop. Most definitely a bad call. But I scooped $550 pot, and will do it again.

My 2bet calling range is non existent vs this guy

Effective Stack is the smallest stack of the players in the hand

Dayn'n'night: my ranges suit my player pool - adjust it for your own as you see fit.

Also in my second estimate I put the Rec overcaller at 50% by adding more offsuit hands and assumed the TAG never continues vs your 3bet:

0.86*0.2*0.2*1= 55% chance everyone folds.

However, the exact ranges may not matter as much as we think because a Rec who calls UTG 2bets wider will likely call 3bets wider too so their fold to 3bet% won't necessarily increase as much as you'd think.

Also such players may only fold to over large 3bets too. Being forced to use bigger 3bets you have to succeed in getting folds more often and the bigger you go the more "correct" you make the LAG opener's faulty 3bet defence strategy.

It's quite possible you just can't get enough fold equity with more than one Rec in the pot to make the squeeze auto profit preflop. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, just that you are going to have to fight for the pot postflop some % of the time.

If there is $55 in the middle, how often does a $75 raise has to work to show a profit? I know its a basic math problem but would be nice to know the formula to solve for next time.

%58 breaks even.

You have no where near 70% suggested, also no where near the 35% suggested by rage.

But once you add in your equity postflop. You have plenty.

Is this accounting for the times we spew postflop?

Gthehandisn'tgoingtobecheckeddownpostflopforeveryo ne'sequitytoberealized,right?G

This is Tha live pokas. Not online 6max.

Thall shall not realize our equity. Or need too.

No shame in folding!!!!

Pre, or post.

how did you get the 58%?

Cheated and used odds probability calculator

why did such a simple question get an obnoxious ironic answer? I am honestly interested in knowing the formula.

Gave you the answer. Don't be so defensive.

I used odds/probability calculator.

Which are readily available on internet. Use google

55/75= 75/ (55+75)= x

X should be your answer, multiply it by 100 for a percent.

On my phone. But fairly certain that is your equation.

(75/(55+75))*100=58%

thanks guys

I think its a decent hand to squeeze with although obviously its very game-flow and villain dependent whether or not I'd do it.

In terms of the actual hand I think its a super versatile hand in 3bet pots in live poker. If you get through the main guy and get a flatter QJo is going to give you a ton of backdoor equity on 9xx 8xx Txx type flops. Eg on Txx almost half the deck helps you out. Any A or K can help you rep AK, QJ pairs obviously, 9 or 8 a gutshot all in all almost half the deck!
Flatters are gonna be soooooo pp heavy here and call one and fold turn on these type of textures as im sure you know


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You don't need to squeeze QJ in 1/3 games to make money.

For those not squeezing QJ here, what range would you squeeze? (Both value 3bets and semibluff 3bets)

I'll put my own range up in a minute...

Probably not squeezing much of anything, I'd just 3b my value hands TT+/AQ+

I would:

V3bet: QQ+ AQo+ (maybe KQo AJo, sometimes AKs AQs AJs KQs)
B3bet: A9s-A2s K9s-K2s (maybe ATo-A2o KJo QJo Q9s-74s, maybe ATC if all callers/overcallers are TAGs and my image is nitty)
Flat: JJ-22 AKs-ATs KQs-KTs QJs-54s QTs-64s

I'd go to around $75 with both value and bluff 3bets.

10+,kq+, ojs+,,,,A10s+, AQ+, all for value

I have less fold equity than Donald Trump, so bluffing isn't profitable

I think A2s-A5s has way too much value as a flat to squeeze OOP here, Id much rather squeeze A2o-A5o or KT-KJo

^ Yeah i can agree with that. I'm always a bit torn with A5s-A2s. Partly I 3bet them because I (controversially) like flatting my big suited Aces and therefore my 3betting range would be a big short of big draws if I also flatted A5s-A2s.