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1/3 spot with AA 1/3 spot with AA

09-02-2018 , 02:45 AM
1/3 Cash game. We have $400. New player that stacks his chips in 10s opens to $15 ($300 Stack) Loose old dude calls $15 ($300 stack).

I 3 bet to $50 with AAhs. Both call. Board is 632dd. They both check. I bet $75 into the $150 pot. New player raises me to $200. What's do I do.
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09-02-2018 , 03:51 AM
Don’t 3! so small next time. I’d make it $75-80 to deny setmining and other odds. Because you 3! so small you can’t rule out sets entirely here (although they are less likely since if V is thinking about IO rules he should have folded pre).

What were positions? Age/race of new player? Had you seen him raise with 22-66 before or limp in?

Without reads, I lean towards ripping it in. You’ve already bet over 25% of your stack so you’re pot committed. I see Vs do this with KK occasionally. Even A6. Maybe he even has the nut flush draw, which we don’t block. 54 would be a surprise. If he flopped the joint he made huge mistakes earlier in the hand that you can exploit going forward.
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09-02-2018 , 04:27 AM
Ripping it seems standard, we should assume our hand is best given preflop and are too strong to really think about folding

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09-02-2018 , 10:05 AM
Given the large original raise, I don't necessarily mind the 3-bet size. You're setting up an SPR of just over 2 on the flop which is definitely comfortable to GII basically always.

I would have made it more like $65-$75 pre, but not a big deal.

As played pre, I mean you're not loving it, but you basically have the top of your range here (One could argue AK is similarly good?). So stick it in and hope they don't have a set.

You could fold hands like QQ/JJ here since villains could have AA/KK
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09-02-2018 , 11:28 AM
This right here. I'm feeling a 3b to $65 is right on the money. $50 is just too small in these passive/stationy games.

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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Given the large original raise, I don't necessarily mind the 3-bet size. You're setting up an SPR of just over 2 on the flop which is definitely comfortable to GII basically always.

I would have made it more like $65-$75 pre, but not a big deal.

As played pre, I mean you're not loving it, but you basically have the top of your range here (One could argue AK is similarly good?). So stick it in and hope they don't have a set.

You could fold hands like QQ/JJ here since villains could have AA/KK
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09-04-2018 , 11:48 AM
I'd prefer a raise to $65 preflop because it does a better job of prevent ~setmining odds. A raise to $65 offers IO (from the deepstack) of about ~8:1 whereas our raise to $50 offers IO of ~12:1, which is a decent enough difference to raise more especially when the SPR will be so small that we won't be able to fold postflop (even a raise to $50 creating a HU pot will create an SPR of just lol 3).

Since I'm committed on this super small SPR ~2 flop, the board is super drawy, and no one ever folds a draw on the flop, I would just open ship it. As played, I shove over the raise; it's not exactly a comfortable one (which is why I raise more preflop) but I don't see what else we can do (what, we're going to put in over half our stack and evaluate if the turn card sucks?).

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