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11-03-2014 , 09:14 PM
Eff stacks, $300

Hero and V are both TAG regulars and don't play too many hands at all

Hero limps 66 UTG, V raises to $15 in MP, folds around to Hero ???

I know we have good implied odds here but V is almost never losing much money here when we hit our set and show any aggression postflop, so is it worth to play 66 here? Also, we kinda have RIO too, as V's range is heavily weighted towards 99+ here as per reads. V just doesn't raise worse than AQs here.

Assume, Hero calls

Flop ($34): 8h 7h 2s
Hero checks, V checks (???)

Turn ($34): Qc
Hero checks, V bets $25, Hero ???

What is V checking behind on flop that picked up equity on turn, besides AQs? Can V be delay-cbetting with say, AK? Should we lead turn instead? Although, our hand's very face-up.
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11-03-2014 , 09:33 PM
Fold.
Could also b/f ~30 on that flop.
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11-03-2014 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fizzypants
V is almost never losing much money here when we hit our set and show any aggression postflop
Bluff more.
Set mine less.
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11-03-2014 , 11:35 PM
The raise to $15 is enough to make me lose interest in the hand with nobody else involved. Against a very aggressive villain who will barrel air a lot I would venture a call some of the time because hero will make more money with a set. If there where more villains involved or stacks where deeper I would also be more inclined to call because both direct and implied odds are better.

As played, give up turn unless you think villain will bet air here and give up on river a lot. The problem is that villain can easily be making a bluff of sorts with JJ/TT type hands that beat hero anyway.
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11-04-2014 , 01:04 PM
I'm cool with the open limp trying to encourage a multiway cheap setmining spot. If Villain is half way decent postflop, I don't think setmining OOP HU versus him is going to be profitable, so I would fold. If Villain is fishy/bad/aggrotard, then sure.

Honestly, even though it's HU (where Villain's cbet percentage will probably be high), this ain't a great board to cbet (no high cards to rep, we could easily have a draw / monster that we don't fold on this board, plus tighty us did limp/call), so I can understand his check behind. The Q can easily hit his range (AK/KQ/etc.), so I think I would check/fold this.

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11-04-2014 , 01:18 PM
I don't like l/c to $15 OOP and then not even attempting a bet on the flop or turn. Setmining with only 20x stacks OOP when you say he isn't going to stack off is bad. You don't say how the rest of the table is playing but I'm probably open raising this UTG or folding (because I don't like limping UTG).
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11-04-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by a12
Fold.
Could also b/f ~30 on that flop.
$30 seems pretty damn excessive. What are you doing when V smooth calls? $95 pot OTT.
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11-04-2014 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
I don't like l/c to $15 OOP and then not even attempting a bet on the flop or turn. Setmining with only 20x stacks OOP when you say he isn't going to stack off is bad. You don't say how the rest of the table is playing but I'm probably open raising this UTG or folding (because I don't like limping UTG).
I thought in live games, a standard UTG open is 99+/AQs+???
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11-05-2014 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Bluff more.
Set mine less.
This. If he's not stacking off with overpairs, then he is most certainly folding overpairs wayyyyy too often that you can bluff him. Generally I'd fold pre OOP unless I think I can get paid off big. You have just enough to set mine since AQ+ is half his range.

Fold turn. AQ got there but it's possible he took a pot control or trappy line with an overpair.

I'd recommend you fold pre if you don't think you get paid off enough. Bluffing can be spew if you don't have a great post flop game
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11-05-2014 , 12:12 AM
Set over set happens 1% of the time on flop. Don't be scared of it. He's wayyyyy more likely to have an overpair than a higher set
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11-05-2014 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fizzypants
I thought in live games, a standard UTG open is 99+/AQs+???
That range is fine but that doesn't mean you should limp/call 5x BB with 66.
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