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02-02-2020 , 05:27 AM
Villain (EP): 30 ish white woman, loose passive ($300)
Hero (BB): late 20s Asian guy, TAG image (covers)

The only significant hand we played before this, I iso raise AA she calls. I bet bet check back 832d Td 9d and she rolls over T9o. I don't show my AA so it probably looks like I bluffed and gave up.

OTTH:

Villain limps in EP. Two others limp. Hero makes it $20 in the BB with AQ. Villain and one other limper calls.

Flop: AK8 ($59)

Hero bets $30. Only villain calls.

Turn: A ($119)

Hero bets ??? Villain calls.

River: J (???)

Hero bets ???

Not sure about sizing. I do realize looking back that by betting $30 and not $40 I made it awkward to get stacks in without betting large on turn or river. The river in particular is not a good card cause AJ gets there. But it's way too nitty to not go for three streets especially since I "got caught bluffing" when she had the T9o earlier.
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02-02-2020 , 06:03 AM
Bigger pre over 3 limpers. Bigger flop, probably 40. Turn I bet 2/3, River 2/3. Obviously folding if the station raises
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02-02-2020 , 10:09 AM
Yep, I agree for the most part.

I like to open to a minimum of $12 in 1/3, +1bb/limper and one or two for being OOP, so I make it $25 here.

AP, I'm always betting 2/3 pot or more multi-way on a wet board if I bet at all (which I def do here).

Turn is actually a place I would often size down, but with no spades in our hand, I keep it a bit larger to make a BDFD pay.

River I go smaller, and it's a b/f. I go half pot.
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02-02-2020 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
Villain (EP): 30 ish white woman, loose passive ($300)
Hero (BB): late 20s Asian guy, TAG image (covers)

The only significant hand we played before this, I iso raise AA she calls. I bet bet check back 832d Td 9d and she rolls over T9o. I don't show my AA so it probably looks like I bluffed and gave up.

OTTH:

Villain limps in EP. Two others limp. Hero makes it $20 in the BB with AQ. Villain and one other limper calls.

Flop: AK8 ($59)

Hero bets $30. Only villain calls.

Turn: A ($119)

Hero bets ??? Villain calls.

River: J (???)

Hero bets ???

Not sure about sizing. I do realize looking back that by betting $30 and not $40 I made it awkward to get stacks in without betting large on turn or river. The river in particular is not a good card cause AJ gets there. But it's way too nitty to not go for three streets especially since I "got caught bluffing" when she had the T9o earlier.
(grunch)

Bigger pre. Especially when there are a lot of limpers, just drop the hammer. As a general rule I like to go 2x the total size of the pot, so with $13 in there I'd make it $25. If everyone folds that is perfectly fine. Making $13 in one hand is awesome. And obviously someone calling 8x when you have AQs is awesome too.

I think flop sizing is fine. You can't be thinking about getting stacks in every hand. Your immediate goal is getting value. Vs can easily have Kx and weak Ax. They are not likely to have AJ/AT (the best hands that you beat) given the limp/call. I would bet small on flop and turn.

Turn is an awesome card for you. There are few spade combos and so many Ax combos that bad stereotypical loose passive players can't let go. Now you should think about stacks. Bet $100 here and jam river.
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02-02-2020 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DK Barrel
(grunch)

Bigger pre. Especially when there are a lot of limpers, just drop the hammer. As a general rule I like to go 2x the total size of the pot, so with $13 in there I'd make it $25. If everyone folds that is perfectly fine. Making $13 in one hand is awesome. And obviously someone calling 8x when you have AQs is awesome too.

I think flop sizing is fine. You can't be thinking about getting stacks in every hand. Your immediate goal is getting value. Vs can easily have Kx and weak Ax. They are not likely to have AJ/AT (the best hands that you beat) given the limp/call. I would bet small on flop and turn.

Turn is an awesome card for you. There are few spade combos and so many Ax combos that bad stereotypical loose passive players can't let go. Now you should think about stacks. Bet $100 here and jam river.
As recommended on CLP, I've been thinking of cheating sizings slightly as an exploit in friendly games with no grinders and people I generally will never see again. So here I'm cheating my preflop sizing down a little bit, cause no one will notice and I want action. Turn is definitely a good card cause the ace and king being spades there's waaaaaaay fewer flush combos they can be limp calling with as opposed to if ace of spades is unaccounted for. I do think that AJ/AT is possible and more likely than say A5 in a loose passive game. Passive players don't raise them in EP. I don't even raise the offsuit combos in EP.

Interesting that you say I can't always be thinking of going for stacks and to focus on getting immediate value. I think that's a very good point and me sizing for stacks is actually a leak. Especially on the river when I overbet or pot it to go all in and really that getting called is wishful thinking.
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