Villain is talented young aggressive player in SB.
Hero opens UTG to 25 with AK.
Called in 4 spots including SB.

Flop: AA2.

Villain leads 75 into a 125 pot.
Hero calls.

Turn: 7
Villain leads 150 into a 275 pot.
Hero calls.

River: 8
Villain checks.
Hero bets 200 into a 575 pot.
Villain shoves for 880 total.
680 for Hero to call.

His line is lol no matter his holding

His holding is a boat

+1

Snap it off

you made it over 8X pre and called a flop lead into 3 people, this person clearly knows what you are likely to have.

So everyone agrees it's a fold?

I did make the fold. It felt gross because I am at the top of my range, but I just don't see how this player could have any bluffs in this spot. He would have to be turning worse trips into a bluff, and if he did that I think I just have to give it to him.

Seems fine to fold

Disagree. He got a nit to fold top trips.

What really stands out to me in this hand is how utterly atrocious villain’s lines were

I agree in the cold light of a forum post this is a boat.

In game, against that line, you guys are way better than me if you're finding a fold.

Sick line man ,,, quite the levelling match, he knows your capped at AK , especially if he holds the other case ace , and your both deep too ! Yikes ,, for someone to make this play as a bluff is rare as he will have to believe that you are capable of getting away from AK on that runout , I mean sick runout, why would he ever lead with Ax here ? Or more specifically A2,A7,A8, 22, I think in my game which is a tough game there is probably only handful of guys in a player pool of 200 probably that can take this line as a bluff and only then a handful of guys that are capable of folding your hand. What did he show ?

I talked with him later in the night and he told me that he had pocket deuces. I think I would have to call a river lead by him, so in the end his check/raise saved me a bit of money in this hand.

He has pocket 22 literally 100% of the time here.

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If I'm playing good I'm folding if I'm playing bad I'm not and then regretting it later

Didn't read this before I commented. But as someone else noted it's a lot easier to make these reads at home than in person well played OP

Just a side note, DO NOT TELL THIS DUDE YOU FOLDED AK

He's playing super exploitable against you because he doesn't know your as good as you are and when you tell him this you allow him to adjust and start bluffing you and he becomes way harder to play against.

Tell him you folded pocket Queens and you felt like he didn't have it until he raised you
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Villian line is not bad at all. He's playing to maximize against fish. This line is designed to play for stacks, he's donking flop and continuing turn for a large size, then check raising river to get any fish with an ace to lose there entire stack. He's super unbalanced, and he's underestimating hero's ability to play considering relative rather than absolute hand strength, but against many players at these stakes this line is excellent way to extract and he will win 75bb more than the average player

First, is no one really addressing the 10x open sizing from Hero. Not understanding that, was there a straddle or something?

Second, how accurate is your read this V is "talented". Donking in a 5 way pot on a AAx board post a 10x preflop sizing is rarely bluffing. Best case, its one of the 1/3 type players that has like A5s and just spazzes bc doesn't know what to do. But this player would be wise enough not to x/r river like so.

Some had said against fish that this line actually isn't bad. Well A) if this was a competent player than he would know V is capable of folding a strong A to such a weird, nutted line. B) At my games at least, bad rec's with weak A's here freeze up big time in multiway pots (and sometimes more than they should given the action). Some may even check back river as played. C) Last, if V does want to lead, why not size up on turn so you can shove stack on river? Hero has all the strong A's, feel its a bit harder to fold to the 3 lead vs. 2 lead, then x/r river line. Hero could maybe put V on 45 of spades type thing.

lots of players with hoodies are bad. if OP is folding here hes obviously competent but you can't say a player is bad for assuming hero is a fish, vast majority of players at 1/3 are fish and villians line is a fine default until he has evidence against.

I don't know what games your playing but the overwhelming majority of fish i play against are calling here with AQ and AK so its super important when you have a boat to develop a plan to get all the chips in. Thats exactly what villian did so heros read that villian is competent seems consistent wth this hand.

Villains line is one of those weird lines that horrible against good players and excellent against bad players, so its probably correct live and super incorrect online. Assuming the player your up against is bad and treating them like a fish who can't fold AK on this river is super correct at low stkes live. Like a guarantee you Villian is litterally never bluffing here but it doesn't matter he doesn't have too players at these stakes call him anyways, for four hundred BB cuz hey they have trip Aces with a king kicker how can they fold??!?

you can say villian should have realized hero is not a fish but you have no reason to thnk that hero has told you nothing of their hh together.

To respond to all three of your points

A see my post above

B c/r only has to work like 1/3 to be better than betting . Villian is correct hero will bet often here and even call of the c/r frequently so this is a great spot to c/r. Yes some heros will check back, that doesn't mean its the wrong play, in fact its clearly correct

C turn is fine because you are planning to c/r on the river so you want to induce and if you bet too big you dscourage hero betting river. Villian sizing is a bit small but big enough to play for stacks on the river after the c/r so its fine sizing

At this table players calling ranges are inelastic -- I can vary my opening size from 15-30 and can expect callers holding 86s and KTo. My plan was therefore to choose an opening size which gave me good SPR and postflop playability. At a 400 bb stack depth matched by 3 other players at the table, I could afford to open large -- later, when I had been whittled down to 150bb, I started opening smaller to 20 or 15.

I thought Villain was competent because he seemed to have very good reads on the table. In one hand he made a very good laydown with TPTK after a nit raised him on the flop. In the other, he caught one of the looser players bluffing on a large river raise when he held the second nut flush on a 4-club board.

I think Villain's line was a terrible way to extract value from me personally, but against some other players at the table who can't fold AK in this spot it was a great line. I did happen to show Villain my AK when I was deliberating what to do on the river, partly to gauge Villain's reaction to my hand. So now the entire table thinks I'm a huge nit.

villian obviously thinks your a lot worse than you are. When you show AK here you help him and the rest of the table make a correction that could cost you hundreds of bb in the future. Don't show off, tell him you thought he was bluffing so you bet river with nothing and then fold. If he's actually competent he will start adding river raise bluffs to his gameplan against you

This^

I'm not sure I could've found a fold here. But if I did, I'm never showing my AK.

It is what it is. Tabling my hand and engaging in table talk with Villain helped me to make this laydown and save 200BB. But now I've opened myself up to exploitation from him in the future.

Don’t assume V had 22 just because he said he had 22. You showed AK so he claimed to exactly the next hand higher in strength to allow you to validate the fold. I’m not saying he did or didn’t have 22, i’m Saying him reporting that he had 22 wouldn’t sway my thoughts on what he had.

All of that being said i’m Raising turn 100% of the time. If he has 22 f him, i’ll Pay him off. I have a ton of equity against nearly every hand. Playing this so softly is a license to steal for a ‘talented aggressive’ player. I’d have called the river and expect to be good.

raising turn is bad, your in positon and hes doing the betting for you. there are also almost no draws that you need to charge... your either way ahead or way behind. Just call turn and raise river if you want to to raise.

overfolding big river raises like this one is money printing at these stakes. Villians line suggest the exact hand he claimed to have, and raising worse for value doesn't make sense. The other reason we want to fold is because its very dfficult for villian to hve any semi bluffs in his range at all, so he would have just needed to be doing this bluff with a hand that has almost no equity. Heros range has lots of aces, its a really bad spot to go crazy with a random suited connector. finally, the fact that so many players wouldn't fold at these stakes (and also that he check/raised river, offering you a showdown offers a form of protection to hero. Villian doen't know hero that well, and against eh majority of 1/3 players trying to bluff them off top trips with a good kicker is an EV disaster. Villian would need to be exceoptionally talented with a really good understanding of heros game to make this play, and giving him that much credit is definitely not something you should do to someone who you say make two good plays in your first session with him

this is a clear fold on river

you are rght tho that hero is overfolding in this spot. Overfolding in spots like this is highly advisable at low stkes live, but in GTO this would be a call its theoretically wrong to fold here assuming villian has complete knowledge of your game because it can be exploited