1/3 - reg action table 2 hands need help
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Hand 1
Hero ($450) A6dd limps in EP couple more limpers behind and LP villain ($800) raises to 15 everyone calls 5 way to flop of:
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Checks to villain, he was almost up $1500 a harry from latb look alike, has been playing good but got stacked all in pre by 910o vs his AQ 4 bet all in couple hands ago but doesnt seem too tilted now.
He bets $80 , im next to act and i tanked for long time....what should i do rejam for my stack or call and see a turn? Is there enough money in the middle or do we just fold?
Hand 2:
Hero ($500) in LP raises to 15 after 1 limper with AKcc. 2 callers including villain from previous hand in BB.
Flop comes: JcQc7d
Villain bets 40, hero raises to 140 hoping for some fold equity and if anything we still have nut flush draw and gutter + 2 overs
Turn: 9h
Villain checks, hero checks behind thinking i dont have much fold equity if i shove, villain is fairly active, seen him make some good calls and folds and hes down from his huge stack, so chances of folding even slimmer
River: 3s , check check.
I was trying to protect my stack from getting felted, did this ruin my play?
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H1 you should be opening when entering the pot.
As played he's potting into 4 players which should mean he has a hand he likes. Unless this is his standard size I think I'll opt to call rather than CR this one. Generally my strategy here would be to split some of my nut fds between some raises and some calls. I think A6 I put in my call group
H2: I'm jamming turn to put max pressure on his weak TP and I figure I could also get calls by worse FDs and maybe even KT. But I think shoving is most profitable here given that he can make a variety of mistakes and our equity is still decent regardless.
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Hand 1: Bad AXs in EP should be folded. On the flop he slightly overbet the pot, so fold is actually the best move unless you think he is tilted enough to double you up when you hit.
Hand 2: Turn and river play are very situational here based on how tilted villain is. If he isn't going to fold any Qx and might hero call with worse then checking down after flop is best. If you have decent FE then a mix of shove and checks is good.
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H1:
I fold preflop the first time. There's just too good a chance we get raised in most games (so little chance of seeing a cheap flop), no guarantee we go multiway (a must if we face a raise) plus we'll be OOP (harder to play and get paid off postflop). Being the first caller of the raise OOP and not knowing that it will definitely go multiway is also meh. Overall, preflop is a leak, imo (but others will disagree).
Flop illustrates why being OOP just sucks so bad. I'm fine with the check this multiway, but now we're seeing a big PSB and are the first too act. Not great odds, will be hard to get paid off OOP if we hit, plus someone behind us could be sandbagging. Our FE also looks a little small since this guy just PSB against the world, although a check/shove still might have some FE as it is pretty strong, and against hands like KK/QQ we're flipping with big dead money. Calling may entice other dominated hands to pad the pot. But mostly it is just a dumb spot we probably shouldn't be in.
H2:
I'm fine with preflop and thanks to big stacks we have a very playable SPR in spite of going 3ways.
If the SPR was smaller I would lean to a raise (perhaps even a jam). At larger SPRs and in position, I might lean more towards just calling. Either is fine.
If we're taking the raising line and only leaving ourselves with a ~PSB for the turn, I think we might have to lean to bombing the turn (although KT did just get there). Although I it's not horrible raising when our equity is good and then getting ourselves to the river.
Also checking back the river as played. A bet here ain't folding much and we have showdown value against worse busted flush draws.
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