Hi All,

I appreciate your feedback on this little hand from a couple months ago:

Hero 350 (But) K9
Villain 1 400 (CO) -- This is my second session with this particular villain. She is stationy and sticky OTF, and sometimes beyond. She has been floating me from OOP with 2nd and 3rd pair OTF.

4 limps, hero raises to 25, Villain calls in CO

(63)
Q93
villain checks, Hero 35, villain calls

(133)
K
Villain checks, Hero checks

(133)
7
Villain 75 (villain has ~ 275), Hero? (~300 left)

Couple questions:
- Is this too wide OTB PF... I know we have 4 limpers, but I find opening my range from the button gives me more action down the line (specifically opening A9s-109s)... When I don't include these hands in my raising range, it seems my image turns nitty and I can't get paid when I do catch my cards..

- cbet OTF? I charge J10, diamonds draws and this villain is sticky, so lower pairs and A high sometimes..

- turn smacked what her range should be although I have improved... J10 and diamonds got there, so I gotta check the turn, right? Or is this opponent so wide that I should be going for value with my 2pair?

- I gotta call the river, no? I'm getting a little less than 3 to 1 and I've underrepped my hand and almost any hand she could have should be trying to take this pot away from me right now.

Thanks everyone!

Why did you check the turn?

Against 1 limper I think this is a mandatory raise preflop. Against 4 limpers it's close. It's certainly a profitable limp behind. I think raising to 25 and getting 1 stationy caller is a good outcome. Getting 3+ calls could end up putting you in some awkward spots with a medium strength hand.

Flop c-bet is fine.

Turn check can make sense against better opponents. Against a station I think you can still bet for value. I wouldn't go big though. Right around 1/2 pot or so, maybe a bit less. You can fold to a x/r.

As played I'd call the river. I need a good read to know that she's not going to value bet 1-pair or bluff here before fold becomes a viable option.

Checking turn seems...not great. If she’s a sticky station, building pots should always be the default, and in that spot you simply need to make seeing the river cost. Giving a free card on that turn (2p’ing you, and giving all sorts of potential rivered flushes and straights) seems real rough.

As played, it’s an easy river call.

Pre seems a bit loose after 4 limps bit it got it HU so good result
Have to bet turn for sure, sticky V will call with many more hands than flushes but no need to bomb it tho

Snap call riv

personally I overlimp or raise larger, don't really want to get one limper to call and cause a cascade of calls.

flop cbet is ok since she is sticky

turn is ok too, completes J10 and all flushes and she has probably all of J10/flushes. Plus getting raised sucks since we lose our boat-up potential.

River call

Pre is good. It’s not too loose, you should be opening wider from the button. Flop is fine. I would definitely bet turn. Sure, the flush came in but if she’s station-y she’s you want to get value from all of her Qs. No need to bomb it. Snap call river as played.

Ok with the line, curious about what the opponent river bet range is.

Regardless, still think it's a call with 2 pr, blocking a better 2 pr. If she can show up with hands like AdTx, QxJd, etc … all the more reason.

Probably would have bet the turning against a calling station.

Definitely just flat now.

Raise is ok pre but overlimping is good as well.

I just overlimp preflop (and also thinking folding is fine too). With 4 limpers we're just going to have to raise to such a large amount to narrow the field so the risk (the huge amount we have to raise in this spot) isn't worth the risk (the trivial amount of limped money in the pot). We somehow got this HU in position with only a $25 raise so nice result I guess, but we're still up against a sticky opponent who isn't just going to check/fold the flop.

I'm fine with the flop bet and sizing. It's possible our hand is good (and it's vulnerable if it is), she's sticky, there's lots worse that can call, etc.

Fairly meh turn card as all the draws got there. I'm also checking back and evaluating the river. ETA: Unlike most others, I'm pretty cool with the turn check. Every draw got there (even KQ), she's going to have a difficult time stationing with worse (even Qx now has to be afraid of Kx) so we're cool with attempting to get one more bet out of weak hands on the river. And getting check/raised and having to fold a potential boat monster would be a disaster, imo.

Probably have to crying call the river as it's possible she's value betting worse (although I think a lot of Kx hands don't value bet here and rather attempt to get to showdown by checking) or perhaps bluffing with a weak UI pair. Meh spot.

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Because it’s the second worst card in the deck aside from 8. If she was sticky with a pair on the flop she won’t be now OTT and we can still target Qx with a value bet on the river if she checks it over to us.

River depends whether villain has bluffs. The worst hand she should be value betting is KQ or 97 if she bets thin. K9 is better than a bluff catcher but not by much.

Result:

Hero calls and villain flips over J7.... Just a pair of 7's.