At this table for about 30 minutes. Action has been crazy.

stack sizes: V 256, H 276

V (mid 30's WG, very little information since he was away for most of the time I've been at this table.) open raises to 20 UTG+1

folds around to H on button, reraises to 100 w/QQ

V shoves.

Now there's 360 in the pot and it's 156 more for hero to call.

Fold or call?

I think you're likely up against KK, AA, or a coin flip in AK. Against an unknown it's a tough spot.

Getting 3 to 1 I think you almost have to call and pray for AQ, JJ, or 10-10 which are hands someone could push with but 1-3 this screams one of the big two.

If this were one of my games, we are 80-20 dogs against AA or KK.

Some casinos I call. In my home casino I fold.

Don't 3-bet so big and don't fold any hands in your range to a jam once you do.

Flat pre if $20 is a large, non-standard sizing at this table.

Call. If you assume the only hands he shoves with are AA, KK and AK, he only needs to shove around a third of his AK combos to make this a call. You'll get some people who just shove AA/KK and some looser people who show up with JJ or whatever. On average he should be loose enough that you can call here.

3b smaller. $60 works especially IP.

AP it really depends if he ever does this with AK and player pool (as mentioned previously). In my casino I’d call but hate it.


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Guys the reason my reraise was so big was that 4 or 5 players were calling raises, and 2 or 3 were calling reraises, all day. Most of these people were nuts and I was adjusting to the table.

I think if you reraise 60 a shove pretty much defines KK AA there, but as played i would call if i didn't know him.

Next time 3bet to $70 preflop and fold to a 4bet. As played, you're priced in to call it off and pray you're not up against KK+ (which you will be, most of the time).

Yup. Against a V who 4! shoves only AA/KK/AK equally, QQ has ~39% equity. Pot is laying you over that (43% by my calc), so call and expect to win an average of 4% of $516 over 1000's of trials ($20.64 wheeee).

Only issue here is that you have no read on V so this is a high variance spot...call if u want to ride the train, fold if you don't. But don't 3! to $100 if you intend to fold...too high a % of your stack.

Since this guy hasn't been part of the craziness, and we're facing an EP raise, and no one else has put dead money in the pot and we're the Button (very likely we'll end up HU regardless of what we do), we don't necessarily have to 3bet preflop, imo. If we are 3betting, there is no reason to go so much. We could go like a more normalish $60 and then fold to a reraise (a 4bet with these stacks is almost always KK+).

I'm too lazy to do the equity math but thanks to our overly large 3bet, my guess is that we're priced in if Villain can possibly have AK. Although my guess it would be a more accurate equity calc if you eliminated half his AK combos (due to them just flatting a lot of the time) and it might be closer.

GcluelessNLnoobG

But there's only 2 guys to react (the SB and BB) so narrowing the field really shouldn't be an issue in this spot.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Doesn't matter. Only the blinds are left to act. There's no reason to size differently here, it's not like you have any cold callers to the initial raise, or even any limpers who have voluntarily put money in the pot.

If you're sizing this big for value against the opener in EP, you have to be planning to call the shove. Otherwise it's ridiculous not to just go a more normal $65-ish sizing.