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Originally Posted by Calldown88
When do you not think a V has the nuts?
Your posts never have any sort of backing to them. It's always, well I've seen this, this is the nuts, fold.
Also no, if there's ever a spot to flat AA or KK preflop it is not in EP after an EP raise. That is actually one of the worst spots to flat AA or KK.
I don't know why some of you think that players never adjust at all. Maybe it's just the games you play, idk, but yesterday I got 3 bet by a tight player holding 77. If you have an aggressive image it's just a matter of time before someone thinks "he can't ALWAYS have it" and make a move with a hand when they think they're ahead.
I think villain doesent have the nutz simply when they doesent take lines or gives off tells that correlates to a nutted range.
Villains at LLSNL and particulary 1/2 and 1/3 is extremely unbalanced. When they make huge aggressive plays like shipping the river, check-raising turn,blasting off for 600 BB postflop, back raising pre,4 betting pre++ its just a huge indicator that they have a nutted hand. Alot of the hands posted on 2+2 contains hero losing his stack with a big second best hand, when villain in the hand have made the writing on the wall with one of these aggressive lines and i strongly suspect hero is beat- so its not very strange that alot of my posts suggests folding a strong hand, but often the second best hand. Huge part of winning livepoker at small stakes these days as people slowly get better at not stackoff off light anymore, is able to lose less on big pots where big hand crash into another big hand, as mentioned by several other posters recently on the forum.
Dont attack me for this often being the case. I just accept the reality as it is, rather than trying to change it. This is from my experience of course, in my different games from the underground scene in Norway+ playing alot of hours in Las Vegas non WSOP time Other games may be different, its up to you to discover. One of my key takeaways through playing several thousands of hours on the livescene is that 95 percent of villains simply doesent 3 bet anything else than QQ+/AK,let alone backraise 4 bet wich is exclusively KK/AA. In any conditions. They just dont shift gears when it comes to preflop ranges regarding 3 and 4 betting.
Its 10 times more likely that this villain flatted the early pos raise with KK/AA thinking "now i am finally gonna trap that aggro asian donk behind me with this monster", than he is flatting with hands like 77-JJ and then deciding 4 betting those with a pot commitment raise to 145.
So instead of coming up with relative bs like "Petrucci always thinks villain have the nutz" come up with some concrete arguments towards one hand at the time, then i can respond properly to that. Look, its not a coincidence that i hit the bullseye in the vast majority of these threads before results is given (many times i am almost alone in the thread advocating a fold too, when the rest of the posters just says nah we are too high up in our range so we just have to stackoff, if he have it he have it move on): its because i see the writing on the wall in spots very similar to what ive seen countless times before. I quickly recognize patterns/ranges/conditions/stacksizes/population tendencies and correlates it to what OP is describing.
I am willing to bet confidently that OP closed his eyes,levelling himself thinking villain is playing back at him, and stacked off into villains KK/AA in this spot. You want to bet against it i suppose due to this post. And yeah: sure, once in a blue ****ing moon villain shows something stupid like 4-5 suited here and rubs it in heros face. That doesent change the reality that this line is nutted a scary percentage of the time.