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1/3 short stacked with suited connector 1/3 short stacked with suited connector

03-23-2019 , 01:34 PM
Villain 1: Winning 2/5 player.
Villain 2: MAWG. Reg in this game.
Hero: Reg in this game. Seen as tighter than average.

$1/3 NL (10 handed)
UTG
UTG+1
UTG+2 V1 ($600)
MP
LJ
HJ
CO V2 ($600)
Button Hero ($195)
SB
BB

Hero had just lost a couple of pots before this and hadn't topped off.

Hero is dealt 89

V1 opens for $15 UTG2. V2 calls, but only throws out $12. I assume that V1 had announced $12, but used red chips because he didn't have any white. I call for $12 and then V1 announces that he made it $15 and it was a mistake on V2's part. I call for the extra $3. Is it a big mistake to call here 3 ways with my stack size? I honestly would have folded to a $15 raise, but thinking about it even $12 is probably too much.

Flop ($49) A67
V1 c bets $40. V2 calls. $129 in the pot at this point and hero has $180 behind. Hero?
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03-23-2019 , 01:58 PM
IT seems unlikely you can jam V1 off his Ace. But you're not getting odds to jam here at your stack size even against 2 Vs, even assuming you're outs aren't dirty.

So then the question is: can you get the right price to the river? I think he will pay you if you can get there.

Given V1s bet sizing, he will barrel any turn brick probably a PSB. You would have 140 behind and the pot would be 320 assuming V2 folds. Only if V2 comes along do you get the correct price. And IF V2 comes along, it likely means some of your outs are dirty.

I'm folding because there are too many contingent events between H and his equity realization.
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03-23-2019 , 03:16 PM
This is why you can't play SCs with a short stack: unless you flop a straight-flush draw, you probably don't want to commit this much of your remaining stack, even though you may be getting the right price to call (assuming neither V has clubs), plus if you hit you won't be able to extract maximum value and reap those implied odds. If you are going to keep playing short, just fold pre; or, top off next time.

Short stack strat = wait for premiums, 3! pre, bet/jam most flops/turns. Calling pre is rare, usually just with mid-PPs to setmine. Suited connectors are just not as playable at this stack depth. Gl!
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03-23-2019 , 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
This is why you can't play SCs with a short stack: unless you flop a straight-flush draw, you probably don't want to commit this much of your remaining stack, even though you may be getting the right price to call (assuming neither V has clubs), plus if you hit you won't be able to extract maximum value and reap those implied odds. If you are going to keep playing short, just fold pre; or, top off next time.

Short stack strat = wait for premiums, 3! pre, bet/jam most flops/turns. Calling pre is rare, usually just with mid-PPs to setmine. Suited connectors are just not as playable at this stack depth. Gl!
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03-23-2019 , 04:12 PM
As played, really easy call
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03-23-2019 , 05:34 PM
Fold pf this short. EZ game.

As played, you have 6 clean outs. I'd call, but not be real excited about it.
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03-23-2019 , 08:00 PM
Vs this flop sizing don't think you have much FE, so I'm calling now but ofc fold pre
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03-24-2019 , 01:34 PM
Fold pre. Rule of 20 for me with suited connectors.

20 X 12 = 240

$240 is bigger than your stack so fold is good.

Also, you're up against at least one good villain so it's going to be hard to get paid if you hit. Therefore, with these villains, I would actually use 25 as the multiplier instead of 20.
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03-25-2019 , 11:55 AM
If you want to top off, there's never any excuse to not doing so (keep chips in your pocket to do so).

Trivial fold preflop for me especially with this stack size. To be honest, I'm not even convinced bigger stacks makes this a call unless we are monstrously better than our opponents. We should be clarifying with dealer what the raise size if if there's any question before acting.

Villain has continued large into 2 opponents OOP, so kinda doubt this is a non-Ace / bluff, and with our smallish stack I doubt we have much FE. We're getting 3:1 to chase our OESD, although a couple of those outs might be dirty (but it's possible we might be able to rep them ourselves if the other guy checks them on the turn). It's probably close.

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03-25-2019 , 12:52 PM
Fold pre, can limp it late position at your stack size but that's it.

As played you have to call. You are getting odds you have 32% to the river. Most turns check through.

If the 10 of clubs peels, i'm still shipping and being happy about it. 3 ways you can't be overly concerned with a flush draw.


If a a 8 or 9 of clubs peels and it checks to me I ship it. and pray neither villain has AQ/AK/AJ with the club.
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