Hi all,

On a roughly 4 buy in downswing which feels like a lot since I only play a few times a week so I think it may be slightly-moderately effecting my play

OTTH

300 effective with the main V

I think he’s very good in the 1/3 player pool I’m in I have direct position on him.

He raises to 15 UTG I have red AA and make it 45 UTG+1

FOUR 4 !!Other V’s call the 45

Original v looks disgusted by calls and he whispered something like I should just jam with this hand

270 FLOP 6d 6s 3h

He jams

We tank fold

How bad is this ? I think it’s the worst fold of my life ..

I honestly think he would 3! KK OR QQ pre especially with all that dead money out there but I look so strong reraisimg him

His utg raise/call range shouldnt have a lot of 6s in it

Well you already know it was a bad fold so why are you posting it? Call everyday

$270 in the pot and $265 behind, we are committed on almost any flop I think. I guess I could fold on QJT black monotone facing significant action. This is a dream flop for us and if he called with a 6, fine we pay him off. Really though trips or better shouldn't jam because it would rather see a bet so what does he have here?

Yeah, I d be more worried about one of the other villains who called pre.

He has something like 3 combos that beat you. You need him to be spazzing out with one or two hands out of all the JJ, TT, 99, even QQ he has that may play this way.

So on a scale of 1 to 10 of bad folds with 10 being accidentally folding part of the pot

I will give this 8.5
Pretty bad

Yeah this is terrible. Like I get you have to be worried one of the jabronis behind you has the goods (6x/33), but there’s too much in there relative to your stack on this board to worry about this.


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Listen Richard, just take a few days off and relax. Get some fresh air. Go on a hike and stretch your legs. When you’re running bad, it’s hard to maintain perspective.

snap call and win v. QQ. If some ss idiot called behind with 6x or 33 so be it.

I’m very upset by how this hand went the UTG player had 1010 and a guy called with 88

I’m surprised he jammed the flop with 1010 tho.

This hand really hurts

On a scale of 1 to 10 of bad, 100.

Just take some time to cool off. Tbh you're in a very bad mindset to be folding this (not needling you). It's better for your health and game to just chill for a bit.

Hope you feel better soon. If you ever play higher or continue to play 1/3 for a long time, these swings are very normal and aren't close to how deep you can fall.

Your fold is atrocious but that's obvious. Id rather talk about the fact the you said villain is very good in your 1/3 player pool. This is only 1 hand but he I wouldnt be giving him any credit for his skill after watching this hand.

It’s crazy cuz I have played around 1100 hours now and my game seems to have very little variance in it I guess compared to a lot of people and it’s just tough .. I think earlier In my very young poker career I lost 5 buy ins in a row and it felt crazy

You should also reflect on why you folded. Did you think about UTG's range when he raised and flatted your 3!? You probably skipped a few steps in your hand reading in order to fold this here. His raise/flatting range UTG is basically TT-QQ, AK (which you block), and once he open jams a 663 flop is's no longer AK. As you have figured out by now, it's a comfortable call once you think about V's range.

Maybe you were butt hurt after losing a few buy ins. If so, next time just call it a night before it gets to this. I am sure you would have snapped this off if you were on your first BI.

Ah that's interesting.... I was in a somewhat similar situation to yours. My game had little variance for a very long stretch; I didn't realize how insane it was until I looked into people's graphs and such threads. so my first huge downswing in absolute $ terms stung for pretty bad. playing when you feel like crap is very unlikely to do you any good.

That's good though. Don't try to change your game too drastically because it is clearly working.

Idk if this is some kinda BDSM thread where you’re looking to get skewered but this is a top 5 worst folds of all time I’ve ever seen posted - maybe the single worst.

I've punted much more with worse I'm sure Richard, chin up

More pre. More Provigil.

This made my eyes bleed.

Is this midwest poker or Fl/Ca? Feel free to share the room if you wish.

Midwest but why do u ask?

I would sometimes consider a flat here and hope someone squeezes behind me. A good player is going to fold a huge part of their range facing an UTG+1 3bet from (I'm assuming) a tight-not-getting-out-of-line player and there's very little dead money in the pot to care about. Admittedly this could backfire and we go 5way to the flop, but that's the risk. If 3betting (which is fine), I go just slightly more to prevent a ~setmining odds.

I think we have to call the flop jam. He has no reason to jam 6x/33 on this drawless board and can just wait for other people to put money in for him; heck, he's perfectly fine having this check thru to the turn for someone to hit their pair. Having said that, it's possible he just didn't think that far ahead and knows there is no way you're folding (it is a suspicious jam if this guy really is one of the better players, as JJ likely just checks to see what you do). Still don't think we can fold though.

ETA: What's a 4BI downswing at 1/3 NL: $1200? Or $1600 if you're BIing in for $400? If I recall, it took me about 1800 hours before I ever went on a $1500 downswing, and yeah, it hurt (even moreso for me cuz I only get out once a week, so the downswing and digging out of it seemed to last forever). The two 950bb downswings (and digging out of them) were even more fun. Heck, even went on a minor 300+bb 5-session loss (month+ for me) earlier this year which was meh feeling. It's just part of poker. Maybe take a bit of a break and when you come back try and do something that gets you in a better frame of mind (whatever that may be, such as shortstacking, or locking up a win, or whatever). This HH was obviously a mistake, but we've all made them. Good luck!

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"On a roughly 4 buy in downswing which feels like a lot" - OP

And here is the lesson that I've had to learn the hard way. I really underestimated how important it is to be in the right frame of mind.

12 hours in, 2 hours after I knew that I was tired. But you know, it's such a good table! AA on the BTN, drunk gambler rides with me to the river. At showdown he declares 2pr. LOL yes I mucked! Bought in for $300, gifted $1500. Didn't play again for a week.

So whether it's being properly bankrolled, leaving at the right time no matter what, or leaving the table for a few minutes to
review a losing hand; I don't ever underestimate the effect of not being in the right frame of mind.

If the lesson is learned, then the price you paid was the right price.

I play most of my hours at Cincinnati Jack and I have noticed that there and other midwest casinos, my variance is very slight as well. The players are more predictable and easier to read. When I play in Fl/Ca, there are more completely clueless players that have more than $100 stacks. Even though the games in Fl/Ca are more lucrative, the variance hammer swings more often.