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09-09-2016 , 08:29 AM
Hero- 30 male tight image. Stack 375
Villian- mid 30s. First hand at the table. Stack 200

Hero dealt 2 black kings on the button

Villian raises to 12 with one caller.
Hero raises to 40.
Villian calls other guy folds.

Flop 4, 9, 4,
Villian checks, hero bets 50, Villian calls.
Turn 10
V check, hero bet 80, V calls
River 3
V checks, hero all in, V calls and flips over AA.

I put him on 88-JJ. Couldn't really see myself getting away from KK.
Thoughts?
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09-09-2016 , 08:58 AM
Just shove the turn. He only had 30 left anyway. Otherwise standard. Just be glad that when you have KK vs AA, he only had $200 and not $3-400 or more.
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09-09-2016 , 09:01 AM
Not sure I agree with standard as far as the river is concerned. It's only $30 but I'd still rather call it than bet it. Not sure that you're getting any value. Otherwise yeah, WP.
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09-09-2016 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HawkesDave
Not sure I agree with standard as far as the river is concerned. It's only $30 but I'd still rather call it than bet it. Not sure that you're getting any value. Otherwise yeah, WP.
There $340 in the pot and you're worried about the last $30? If he hit a flush so be it. Otherwise that river card means nothing. Hes not folding anything he got this far with and neither is hero.
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09-09-2016 , 09:18 AM
It's $30. I'd rather call it off than bet it, yes. Am I going to fold? Of course not. If you toss around 10BBs like they're meaningless then you have a leak.
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09-09-2016 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HawkesDave
It's $30. I'd rather call it off than bet it, yes. Am I going to fold? Of course not. If you toss around 10BBs like they're meaningless then you have a leak.
Im not tossing it around. Hero is ahead here almost every time. Letting villain keep his last $30 is a leak.
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09-09-2016 , 09:34 AM
Then get it in on the turn.

For what it's worth, I've changed my mind. You're right. I think checking the river with JJ or even QQ would be better, with KK you're giving a free pass to JJ or QQ if Villain checks too.
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09-09-2016 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigE314
Hero- 30 male tight image. Stack 375
Villian- mid 30s. First hand at the table. Stack 200

Hero dealt 2 black kings on the button

Villian raises to 12 with one caller.
Hero raises to 40.
Villian calls other guy folds.

Flop 4, 9, 4,
Villian checks, hero bets 50, Villian calls.
Turn 10
V check, hero bet 80, V calls
River 3
V checks, hero all in, V calls and flips over AA.

I put him on 88-JJ. Couldn't really see myself getting away from KK.
Thoughts?
shove turn.
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09-09-2016 , 11:54 AM
Firstly, don't post the hand result as it provides biased opinions.

Other than jamming on the river, the rest of the plays seem fine. However, without a read on villain such as playstyle, hand range, etc, checking back or a smaller raise would be a better play on the river. bet~$40 and if he thinks he has you beat, he'll c/r and you would only lose the bet. Putting him on 88-jj first hand calling a three bet for 14bb is rather loose. In that position, I'm assuming he could have ak,aq,aj hearts even kq kj. Even suited connectors and any other hand such as A4s. In that spot on a paired board, I would check it back and sigh to the result of course.
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09-09-2016 , 12:04 PM
This is pretty standard/cooler though agreed with others that you should have just shoved turn.

Once you go to the flop with $80 in the pot and only $160 behind, you want to gii on anything but an ace-high flop.
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09-09-2016 , 12:36 PM
This is not a hand that would keep me from sleeping soundly at night. WP, except as others say, no reason to hold back the last $30 for the river. Villain would likely call off with QQ and JJ as well.
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09-12-2016 , 03:17 PM
Next time don't post results as it may influence responses.

I would also 3bet to $40 as it prevents setmining odds in a pot we'll be committed to postflop. If caller was very loose and as deep as us, I might bump it a bit more.

The pot is ~$90 and we have $160 left, so on this board we're 100% committed for stacks. The question is how to get them in. The board does contain a flush draw, which might slow down the action if it gets there. If he's got a hand like TT we'd hate to see a J+ land, which might also slow down the action. Since it sounds like he is an unknown, I would actually consider just shoving the flop and hoping a pair can't lay down their hand before a scare card comes. Otherwise, I'd probably just make a large bet to setup a turn shove.

As played, pot is now $190 and we only have $110 left. This is an easy ship at this point, there is no point in leaving a lol $30 left in what will be $350 pot.

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09-12-2016 , 03:46 PM
Tough spot against an unknown once the PF raise is called.

I might go only $65 on Turn with only $110 effective left. I want calls all the way down to 55 and even 9x here and then see what happens on River. Nothing wrong with offering 4 to 1 on what you think may be only 2 or 3 outs with the board paired. And since we are playing 1-2 we always have AK, right?!! GL
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