25 + 25 + 25 + 3 + 1 = 79

Grunching(haven't read anything but your original post),

I would probably 3bet preflop here against the described villain because he'll raise the button here with a very wide range of hands and if he does call our bet, we still have a very playable hand. If called, I'd probably follow through with a continuation bet and then give up if he doesn't fold, assuming my hand is unimproved or only mildly improved. Probably good thing you didn't do this in practice given how the action played out though. But of course, we shouldn't be results oriented.

As played, I'm probably folding to V1s limp/reraise. It sure is strange to do out of the CO but people do weird things in straddled pots and limp/rr is just so strong typically. Even if you flop top pair, you're out of position and have no idea if you're good or not. I get that the pot odds were quite good, but it just isn't a good hand at that point. Plus, your implied odds are quite small against V1.

As for your river bet, I don't get that. I'm check/calling this river. I can't be expecting worse to call and I don't want to get bluffed off my hand, which V2 may be capable of.

You need to brush up on fundamentals tbh.

Btw, no offense OP. Hope you find the drive to improve. Or even more, I hope I'm wrong and you're actually very very good.

Oh, and V2 is awful. This hand, as a whole, should be enshrined. I'd like to watch a live action simulation of it every time I'm down on my own skill level and confidence.

I have seen someone else play flopped nut flush exactly like V2 as well.

Board was extremely similar, I think the river paired it. No bets on flop or turn, x/c river. Shows flush, was good, entire table bursts out laughing, probably bad form but WTF play.

This is the kind of cavalier dismissal that prompted me to take the tone I did. You need to reconsider what you're doing since it is pretty obviously the root of your major leaks. It's not a small thing. It's costing you a lot of money.

V1 either has AK or two non spade jacks.

As played, doesn't really matter, you are good here. V1 will probably call you with his jacks and start cussing about his obvious bad luck.

but you butchered this pre. no problem with calling the initial raise from V2 to 25. In fact, you could even re-pop him to 75 and then c-bet him off of whatever piece of cheese he has. But whenever V1 backraises to 60, you should dump it. JJ is the very bottom of his range right there.

I don't take offense. Thanks for all of your criticism. I don't get to play that much anymore since I work in NYC now. But i completely agree a need to brush up on fundamentals, which is probably (and clearly) the weakest part of my game.

I am just not a big fan of pre flop 3bet, 4bet when I could see a flop for cheap, but this is mostly because of my perceived table image, not because I don't think that play is powerful. I am definitely up a lot of money playing poker for my career given the stakes I play (and I've played a lot), but brushing up on fundamentals is something I'm trying to improve.

And yes, I do agree, the fact he didn't raise me with AKss is the absolute nut low play. He trapped me, and then didn't punish me. #fish.

Well I wrote that after your response.... but I don't completely disagree. I don't think calling limp, reraises with QJcc is a +EV play, let's get that out of the way.

But, I just didn't think he was very strong when he did it in this particular scenario. So knowing I was closing the action, thought I could win a big pot. But being OOP really sucks, and I should make a note to play less hands there.

By the river, this is exactly what I thought. And yeah addressed that point above, just thought it was a frustration raise, not an AA or KK raise preflop by V1. Guess I was right, but can't be right every time. Thanks for your input!

If he raises the river after the.way it plays he is never getting called by you unless he is beat so why should he raise? Are you really calling?

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Well certainly if I flopped a smaller flush yes and it could look like a bluff. Is it impossible to put it past good players to bluff? I don't think I would have called, but I may have tbh.

Is he ever supposed to have AKss in that spot when he checked the turn on the button? I really don't think so.

So raising looks superrr bluffy, but that's his whole point of trapping. What could I have, Q 10 or QQ exactly? And probably not even QQ.

Size of errors by v....
Flop> pre > turn > river

Cold calling raises is one of the most common mistakes people make at LLSNL. Basically 95% of the player pool does it way too often with way too wide a range of hands. That is why so much of the advice you see on 2+2 is "fold pre". Any way you slice it QJs is a marginal hand out of position against a solid player's open in hands that are going to be 3 way or less. In your posts you seem to think that the ability QJs to flop big overcomes the negative equity the QJs has against the range of the solid player. That is not true if you are likely only going to be heads up with a solid player. Do you think he is going to play a 400BB pot and payoff your flushes and straights and 2 pairs with his one pair hands? More realistically, because he is in position he will manipulate the pot to get to show down cheaply on boards he finds scary, and extract more value from you when you pay a street or 2 with your top pair hands/flopped a draw hand.

Now if you were going to be in a hand that was going to go 4+ ways there is some value in a hand like QJs because there is a much bigger chance that someone will make the mistake and play a big pot with you when you crush the flop and the will be enough dead money in the pot to help keep you in +ev situations when you flop your draws.

Finally, if you are in the Small blind against a solid player's open where the hand is likely to be 3 way or less, you should very rarely call with anything. In fact it would probably be an improvement in your game if you said, I'm only going to 3b or fold in that spot. Arguably small PP's and 1 gap or less suited connectors would be the type of hands to call with if you were deep enough and if you were confident he would play big pots with 1 pair hands on boards that would look relatively safe to him based on his perception of you (this is rare in a LLSNL casino setting by the way).