MP (Villain) in the hand is a younger guy, seems to be TAGish up to this point but haven't seen him show down any hands at all up to this point.

BTN is the spot at the table. Calls lots preflop and generally plays loose passive postflop.

Hero is younger guy with a TAGish image. Wasn't card dead but not raising up a ton either. I should be mostly unknown to villain.

Everyone has about $400 stacks.

OTTH:

Hero dealt T9 in BB.

Folds to MP who raises to $15. BTN calls and Hero calls.

($45) Flop: T98

Hero leads out for $40. MP calls. BTN folds.

($125) Turn: 8

Hero ???


Not a great turn given that our two pair is now losing to overpairs here which I think makes up a decent chunk of his range. I would assume he raises his straights and combo draws on the flop even with BTN behind... Given that most of his range is Tx, overpairs and draws, are we betting here for value (~$80)? Or are we checking and seeing what he does?

I like a bet, but you can bet smaller to something like 60. You want to keep Tx hands in. Doubt you can fold draws at the same time.

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I'd fold preflop. We'll be OOP to MP and we definitely aren't making any money off of him OOP (right?). Admittedly the mark is in the hand, but being OOP and not HU is going to make it more difficult to make money off of him too (I'd be much more cool overcalling in position).

The SPR is 10ish, so we could play for stacks with some biggish PSBs. The question is, do we want to play for stacks for 3 bets postflop on this board? Yeah, we have top two. But when you start considering all the hands that will be willing to play for 3 PSBs postflop, we're not doing great against that range. I'm cool with the donk, but I'd probably donk less because I'm not exactly looking to build a huge pot here, plus if a stupid card comes we can easily check/fold (i.e. our opponents shouldn't have much IO against us on the obvious draws). I'd probably go no more than $30.

Warning bells should be going off when the guy that we don't want to call us calls us. Note that I'm guessing he could still flat the flop a decent amount of the time with monsters in order to invite the fish in behind him, no?

Yeah, pretty terrible turn card. I think I'd mostly check/fold unless the sizing is super small.

ETA: I also don't think we get bluffed here too often. It could very well look like we are now slowplaying a boat ourselves, or our flopped straight is scared of a boat (but never folding). My guess is this hand plays out fairly honestly which is why we can make hero check/folds here.

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Preflop I'm ok with the call because of BTN coming along but it's pretty marginal. Could probably find better spots, especially because you're just two seats to the left of the mark. MP PFR doesn't sound like a pushover either so this really is a messy situation. I can't say fold preflop for sure because I know in the heat of the moment if I looked down at T9s with the mark at the table in the hand I'm probably calling OOP or not. Doesn't make the play a good one though.

As played I probably check/fold. If he has Jx or a potential draw he's probably checking it back because of how coordinated the board is. If he has an OP he's probably betting and you can safely let it go. As GG said, villain should realize you could have a strong range here so if he bets out after you check I think it confirms to you that you're behind and you can fold.

bet/fold $80.

I'm not ready to give him credit for an overpair based on the limited action. All he's done is open to $15 from MP and call a single bet on the flop. More likely he has JT-AT, AJ, KJ, heart draw. Bet now and check most rivers if called.

Calling or 3betting pre are both fine and good

Leading psb seems lol bad against anyone who has a brain

And what is the correct play here then?

From where I'm sitting, maximizing value from the BTN makes psb good even if MP can see we're strong here...

What? fold pre? Cmon lol.

Flop lead is ok.
Turn check/call
River check shove all in

Leading for a reasonable $25 or $30 seems better, alternatively check calling and or check raising given action might be better, although this hand might be the bottom of your flop value raising range so it might be too thin. I would like to check call flop

Pre-flop is fine, but I can see a fold. No reason to 3bet this hand.

Flop is good. Turn is a check. As stated, he has to be a little worried about this board and there is not much he wants to get check/raised with. Probably best to check/fold, but in game I might check/call depending on size.

It's a very good line but maybe too creative at these stakes. I think I prefer c/f

There are many reasons to 3bet this hand

I was wondering about this line too. At first I was impressed, but now I"m not too sure. If we don't boat up, our turn call mostly just allows overpairs to own us by checking back the river (which most players at this level do). Heck, they might even check back a straight, and when they do bet it I'm not necessarily convinced they'll fold enough to the shove (although they certainly will a lot of the time).

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From the BB vs an MP TAG raise and a loose BTN call, I'd rather see a flop.

I highly doubt TAG MP is raising very light, and BTN is calling light and probably won't fold to the 3bet, especially if MP flats, so you have to hit pretty well to continue OOP. This is a great hand to see a flop three-ways.

I think pre isn't a slam dunk call, but I lean towards calling, especially with the mark in the hand.
I also like the bet, check call, check raise line. But I probably lean towards check calling both turn and river. We have no hearts, no J and we block full houses, annnnnd we block 98, which is one of the most likely 8s villain would have. The downside is we don't block the QJ, but I think villain raises flop enough with this that we don't have to worry much

I dont play much 1-3 but villian was described as young tag so the line should work. You pretty much have the nut bluffing hand. If he is good villian will fold all overpairs, 8x and probably all straights except QJ

I think I bet/fold the turn, because you can get value from hands like KT/AT, and draws. Then I check the river and most likely fold to a bet since I don't expect him to value bet worse and when you take the bet bet check line on boards where draws miss people expect that you're checking to call so I don't expect him to bluff a missed draw much here. And if a draw comes in otr we really don't beat much.

Not saying this is the line that generates the most ev, but I think you don't put yourself in a situation to make a big mistake this way.

I actually really like this line, but only against a player we know is good and can fold "big hands".