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1/3 nl, straddled pot, h is pfr, best line? 1/3 nl, straddled pot, h is pfr, best line?

09-19-2016 , 11:35 PM
Not needing a true pahwm here, but allow for a little discussion on best plays. I'll wait a bit to post further action.

This is a late night Sunday at the local casino. A bit stiffer competition, but still some loose money at the table and most players are $500+ deep. Raises are typically between 15 and 20. 20-35 with the straddle on.

V1 CO - ($325) 40s asian, sees too many flops, calls too many bets, bets when has a good/bestish hand in his mind. He may be a truck driver

V2 UTG - ($300) 40s asian american, gambooler, spews a ton, plays for fun

H MP (covers) - 30s white guy, regular, ball cap and plain t-shirt. Closer to TAG than anyone at table, playing pretty snug w/out position, always raising pf. People commenting that "you fold every hand." I usually ham it up but there were two "new" players at the table for about the hour prior who just left and I was concentrating pretty hard on them. less social than usual.

V2 straddles, folds to hero w/ AQ, hero raises to $25. folds to Button who calls, BB calls.

Flop ($80) AxQ6

V2 checks, Hero ?

Last edited by Garick; 09-20-2016 at 12:11 AM. Reason: fixed suit marker
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09-19-2016 , 11:48 PM
Neither V is calling anything unless they have an ace or a club draw, and both seem very likely to overpay handily for either of those. Go for the gusto, imo. $75 seems good.
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09-20-2016 , 12:09 AM
One club or two?

I'm betting 55 with my whole value range here, keep some gutters in.
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09-20-2016 , 12:46 AM
Two clubs.
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09-20-2016 , 06:03 AM
50-65, ez
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09-20-2016 , 09:45 AM
This is a late night Sunday at the local casino. A bit stiffer competition, but still some loose money at the table and most players are $500+ deep. Raises are typically between 15 and 20. 20-35 with the straddle on.

V1 CO - ($325) 40s asian, sees too many flops, calls too many bets, bets when has a good/bestish hand in his mind. He may be a truck driver

V2 UTG - ($300) 40s asian american, gambooler, spews a ton, plays for fun

H MP (covers) - 30s white guy, regular, ball cap and plain t-shirt. Closer to TAG than anyone at table, playing pretty snug w/out position, always raising pf. People commenting that "you fold every hand." I usually ham it up but there were two "new" players at the table for about the hour prior who just left and I was concentrating pretty hard on them. less social than usual.

V2 straddles, folds to hero w/ AQ, hero raises to $25. folds to Button who calls, BB calls.

Flop ($80) AxQ6Tx

V2 checks, Hero bets $50, V1 calls (counts out chips in stacks of $10), UTG folds

Turn ($180) Hero ____

Note: I didn't factor rake into original post. I factored in $5 rake in my head during play, so like betting $50 into 75-76.

Last edited by Garick; 09-20-2016 at 06:48 PM. Reason: added turn card
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09-20-2016 , 10:28 AM
What was the turn card? I'd go slightly bigger otf, probably $65 for value vs Ax, Qx and fd's.
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09-20-2016 , 10:29 AM
Whoops, turn is

Tx
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09-20-2016 , 10:55 AM
I have a feeling that this hand turned out a similar way to mine on Sunday.

Basically, in your shoes, I would betting the pot on 4th street.

Here's what happened to my AQ Sunday. 1/2 game at my local casino, all limped pot, flopped 2 pair with AQ off, rainbow flop with no straight possible, V has a mid pair only. He bets first, I raise 3x, he calls. Turn, V picks up a flush draw, he bets again, I raise 4x, he calls. River, he hits his back door flush off a rainbow flop. I bet my last 100, he wins.
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09-20-2016 , 04:37 PM
This is a late night Sunday at the local casino. A bit stiffer competition, but still some loose money at the table and most players are $500+ deep. Raises are typically between 15 and 20. 20-35 with the straddle on.

V1 CO - ($325) 40s asian, sees too many flops, calls too many bets, bets when has a good/bestish hand in his mind. He may be a truck driver

V2 UTG - ($300) 40s asian american, gambooler, spews a ton, plays for fun

H MP (covers) - 30s white guy, regular, ball cap and plain t-shirt. Closer to TAG than anyone at table, playing pretty snug w/out position, always raising pf. People commenting that "you fold every hand." I usually ham it up but there were two "new" players at the table for about the hour prior who just left and I was concentrating pretty hard on them. less social than usual.

V2 straddles, folds to hero w/ AQ, hero raises to $25. folds to Button who calls, BB calls.

Flop ($80) AxQ6

V2 checks, Hero bets $50, V1 calls (counts out chips in stacks of $10), UTG folds

Turn ($180) Tx: Hero bets $100, V1 checks cars and says "I'm alll in." Pushes rest of chips out one stack at a time.

Hero???

Note: I didn't factor rake into original post. I factored in $5 rake in my head during play, so like betting $50 into 75-76.
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09-20-2016 , 05:36 PM
AP, against this guy, it's a a very routine call for only $125 more.
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09-20-2016 , 06:52 PM
Snap call, though not fist pumping. A lot of AT in his range, as well as some A6s, AK, and of course, some ******edly played TT and even some slow-played 66, though that's rare on this board.
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09-20-2016 , 06:57 PM
Any alternate paths along the way? Agree with the bet sizing options.
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09-20-2016 , 07:04 PM
Well, I prob go $75/$150/trivial remainder of effective stacks, since I know how much these players will overpay for FDs, but your line is better for keeping weak aces in, so could go either way.
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09-21-2016 , 04:13 PM
I'd probably raise slightly more if I believe CO/UTG are the stacks I'll most likely be targetting, so ~$35 so that I can more easily stack off with TP. I also don't think it's a crime to open limp this hand OOP (as it plays fine multiway in limped pots).

HH is a little messed up regarding who we are playing against, but it doesn't matter. In the end we've flopped top two on a drawy board with an SPR of ~4 against some loose callers. Easy PSB to setup a turn shove and I'm never folding.

ETA: I dislike the smaller flop bet. These guys are pretty much calling any bet on the flop if they have an A / draw, so lets just target those hands (as G says); weaker hands are pretty much going to fold to any bet. Also, sets up a very awkward $180 pot with like $225 stacks for the turn (where we are committed, even on bad cards).

ETA#2: As played, trivial call as we are beating so much (we're beating all two pairs and mega draws).

Gnothingtoseehere,imoG

Last edited by gobbledygeek; 09-21-2016 at 04:19 PM.
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