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1/3 NL QQ Facing Pot Sized Bet from UTG Limper 1/3 NL QQ Facing Pot Sized Bet from UTG Limper

11-21-2015 , 11:58 AM
1/3 NL - $300 Max Buyin 9 Handed

Reads on Players
Villain 1 is UTG and is a bad LAGTAG who pays people off light and is mad that I keep isolating light and taking pots with continuation 2/3 to pot sized continuation bets on the flop. However, he is capable of calling down bluffy players and value raising his hands to price players out from drawing him out and will value bet light.

Villain 2 is in SB and is a bad Tight Passive player who open limps often, cold calls often, and rarely raises except AK+, TT+ preflop but is in way too many hands and has rebought for $300 three times but has about $330 at the table now and is tilting. Have yet to see villain 2 raise postflop but have seen villain 2 call down with Top Pair Good Kicker and will call down postflop with bad draws like pair draws when he flops middle pair.

Villain 3 is a bad LAG fish. Has been playing since 6am when he finished a 12 hour shift at work. He needs to go back to work at 6pm and this is about 2pm so he has been awake up for 24+ hours. Straddles often, plays any two cards in the blinds, and raises decent amount of hands preflop but will slow play big hands like QQ+ and AK+. Will also slowplay big hands postflop like Two Pair+. Villain 3 has re bought about 5 times for $200 each time.

Hero: Has been playing TAG on a tight side because players rarely fold preflop and have balanced out when to play subpar hands preflop to make sure players don't look me up when I continuation bet with effectively air in 3-4 way pots but no one has yet to look me up.

Effective Stacks

Villain 1: Has me covered with about $1200 to start the hand.
Villain 2: Has about $330 to start the hand.
Villain 3: Has about $230 to start the hand.

Preflop
Villain 1 open limps UTG, UTG+1 limps along, HERO makes it $25 in the cutoff, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, and UTG+1 folds.

Flop

J84 Rainbow ($103 in the pot)

Villain 1 donk bets $100 for a pot sized bet. HERO???

Sidenote: My read on UTG was that he was weak. He saw me donk on the turn with J2o after i bought the button and picked up an open ended straight draw on the turn 4 ways and rivered a straight to chop with AJo and was mad that I was bluffing all those hands when I was winning pots continuation betting (which I kind of was). SB and BB were basically set mining or just trying to hit gin flops with whatever they called preflop like flopping two pair, flush, etc to double up.

Conservative Hand Ranges
UTG: JJ, 88, 44, T9, AJ, KJ, QJ, JT
SB: JJ, 88. 44, T9, AJ, KJ, QJ, JT, J9, J8s, QT, 97, AK (At least hands they'd consider calling on flop)
BB: JJ, 88. 44. T9, AJ, KJ, QJ, JT, J9, J8s, QT, 97, AK (At least hands they'd consider calling on flop)

Last edited by maka2184; 11-21-2015 at 12:16 PM.
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11-21-2015 , 01:19 PM
What is your stack? On a flop like this we need to get this heads up and villain is repping AJ/KJ/QJ here. Based on your reads I can't see him leading with a PSB with a set, he would check to you and let you c-bet. Since he pays off light I would probably CIB or possibly a bit more, $250. V could interpret this as you making a play at him. In this spot I would probably feel safe playing for stacks. The only hand that makes any sense that beats you here is J8.
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11-21-2015 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alecspade
What is your stack? On a flop like this we need to get this heads up and villain is repping AJ/KJ/QJ here. Based on your reads I can't see him leading with a PSB with a set, he would check to you and let you c-bet. Since he pays off light I would probably CIB or possibly a bit more, $250. V could interpret this as you making a play at him. In this spot I would probably feel safe playing for stacks. The only hand that makes any sense that beats you here is J8.
My apologies, my effective stacks are $900 before the hand started so about 300 Big Bets. Villain 1 has about 400 big bets for $1200 before the hand started.
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11-21-2015 , 01:31 PM
Raisy Daisy, an overbet RIP may get called too since he calls off light and may just be getting tired of your s***

If he had anything super strong I figure he'd try to c/r you since you've been c-betting a ton.

Just don't call.

Last edited by PCCP; 11-21-2015 at 01:33 PM. Reason: Found out stack size
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11-21-2015 , 02:05 PM
Just so I'm clear: both blinds check, V fires $100?
You can call, bc both blinds are highly likely to fold, and V will fire turn.
If a player in the blinds calls or raises, you have position and can adjust depending on what V does.
I think I call, watch the blinds fold, and let V bet his J again on the turn and raise then.
On the chance he's betting an OESD, waiting cuts his odds, since he might GII with a draw (which, in a vacuum would be good for you if you could put him on that exactly) and on the chance one of the blinds is in the weeds with a monster, just calling protects your stack.

Raising would be fine, too, but if we're willing to GII, we have a better shot at stacking him if we let him fire turn and then raise, and at that point, it's prob shove.
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11-21-2015 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
Just so I'm clear: both blinds check, V fires $100?
You can call, bc both blinds are highly likely to fold, and V will fire turn.
If a player in the blinds calls or raises, you have position and can adjust depending on what V does.
I think I call, watch the blinds fold, and let V bet his J again on the turn and raise then.
On the chance he's betting an OESD, waiting cuts his odds, since he might GII with a draw (which, in a vacuum would be good for you if you could put him on that exactly) and on the chance one of the blinds is in the weeds with a monster, just calling protects your stack.

Raising would be fine, too, but if we're willing to GII, we have a better shot at stacking him if we let him fire turn and then raise, and at that point, it's prob shove.
Yes, both blinds check and Villain 1 (UTG open limper) donk bet $100 on the flop.

I called and thought it was atrocious afterwards. SB shoved for $300 total, BB folded, and UTG folded after tanking for a few minutes, I snap called.

SB didn't show his hand but run out came

J847A

No flush possibility so I'm guessing he shoved with KJ, QJ, or JT since all the players were getting annoyed by how many pots I was winning without showing down my hand with correctly sized continuation bets on the flop.
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