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1/3 NL Hero 80 BB deep.  Over-shove river? 1/3 NL Hero 80 BB deep.  Over-shove river?

08-18-2018 , 09:20 AM
Hero has $240
(UTG+1) Villain 1 $500+
(BB) Villain 2 $90


8 handed, loose aggressive table, 1 monster stack (and i must mention a rather big pot just happened with Villain 1 losing 25% of his stack to drop to about 540 (to monster stack)). As far as reads go, BB is a donk in my mind, and UTG+1 is an old dude who just seems to "bet it when he has it", but as well I've also noticed his calling frequency is a bit too high.

Hero is in SB with [3h] [3c]

action folds to UTG +1 who opens for 10
HJ and BTN both call.
Hero calls 10
BB calls

Flop:
[Ad][2d][3d]

Hero checks
BB bets 15
UTG+1 calls
HJ and BTN fold
Hero calls

Turn:
[Ad][2d][3d][Td]

Hero checks
BB bets 15
UTG+1 calls
Hero calls

River: (Pot ~135)
[Ad][2d][3d][Td][Ts]

Hero checks
BB shoves for 50
UTG+1 calls 50
Hero.....??

I'm thinking now that shoving here for another 150 against a tilted player is best course of action. I made the wrong move in the moment and opted to call, thinking that any observant player would understand that I'm representing a boat, so i'd only be called (for the side-pot) by AT, T3, T2 or (AA - unlikely). After more thought I think shoving is just fine. Tilted player is likely to call off with nut diamonds, just to catch a squeeze bluff. That alone outweighs the 3 combos of boats, one which I block heavily that can beat me. Easy shove, I have him beat (probably), make him pay.






Thoughts? Thanks








Hands

Villian 1 [2c][2s]
Villian 2 [Kd][Th]
1/3 NL Hero 80 BB deep.  Over-shove river? Quote
08-18-2018 , 12:36 PM
Don't show results if you want comments to provide unbiased advice.

I probably fold this pre unless BB is a major fish and the HJ and CO are pretty bad as well. If you were 100BB+ deep I would make the call.

Flop should be a x/r. Value is urgent and denying equity to any diamond is imperative.

As played, I guess turn is a meh call since you're getting odds to hit your boat.

Rip river. We lose to basically nothing except AA. UTG+1 is extremely capped here.
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08-18-2018 , 12:59 PM
This river is...not ideally played imo. I’ll leave it at that.

How could you possibly put anything that beats you besides AA in V’s range? Even that is very unlikely given prior action. By contrast, you say V’s calling frequency may be too high so we can put most Tens, flushes and other stuff in his calling range.

The pot is $235. You have $200 left. This is a slam dunk raise and not doing it because you think a V who calls down light in 1/3 can read your soul is very very bad. You need to milk all the value you can when you get into these super lucrative spots.

This doesn’t take into account the pre, flop and turn actions. You absolutely MUST raise this flop. You need to deny equity to flush draws and you can absolutely still get called by As.
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08-20-2018 , 11:16 AM
I'm ok with preflop.

Even though there are some hands that beat us on this flop, there are hands that are behind and will start paying off, and with the SPR of just over 4, I think we're probably committed. Bunch of scare cards will slow things down on the turn. I probably donk a PSB+ to setup a turn shove.

As played (checking the flop), I think we should check/raise to setup a turn shove.

Next time put pot size on each street. Looks like pot is $125 and we just have to call $15 to hopefully boat up, so I'm also check/calling.

On the river the pot is $140ish and we have $200 against the deepstack and just $50 against the smaller stack. We'd hate to have this check around. I think I just shove.

As played (checking the river), I just shove the rest in now and hope to get a crying call.

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