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1/3 NL - Betting 100% pot, an experiment 1/3 NL - Betting 100% pot, an experiment

03-23-2015 , 10:17 PM
Personally, betting 100% pot on any street is not in my game, the max I go is 75%-80% because I believe 100% is slightly vulnerable for so many reasons:

1) it could get us committed to the hand, esp OTT, like in the example below

2) many V's at this level are folding to such strong bets unless they have us crushed or have huge equity whereas they may look up a standard 50-75% cbet with weaker holdings; therefore betting 100% lets them play perfectly against us; ofcourse droolers are exceptions but even they might see 100% pot as a lot of strength

3) betting lesser than 100% pot regularly makes it cheaper to balance our cbetting; unless we're ready to always cbet close to 100% pot 100% of the time with our value hands and bluffs

4) the last and biggest problem with betting 100% pot imo is Vs may just decide to trap by flatting you when they flop gin because you're announcing you have a really strong hand, which they may not want to scare away by raising, even on drawy boards; this results in you betting 100% pot on the next street again with a hand you think is best and guarantees you getting stacked when stacks are shallow

1/3 NL, readless against your typical LLSNL V

Hero opens to $15 in EP with AA
V calls $15 on the Button
SB calls $15

Pot: $45

Flop: 8h 7h 3s

SB checks
Hero bets $45
V calls $45

Pot: $135


Turn:
Tc

Hero bets $135
V goes all-in for a) $235 b) $270 c) $300

I assume H has to call a) and b) and probably fold c) BUT is mostly always beat in all 3 scenarios since your typical rec V is just calling turn with dominated hands.

OTOH, betting 3/4 pot on all streets lets us bet/fold the turn cheaply in all 3 scenarios.

Let the arguments flow! I'm sure there are people who are successful at the 100% pot strategy.

Last edited by 6betfold; 03-23-2015 at 10:39 PM.
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03-23-2015 , 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6betfold
1/3 NL, readless against your typical LLSNL V

Hero opens to $15 in EP with AA
V calls $15 on the Button
SB calls $15

Pot: $45

Flop: 8h 7h 3s

SB checks
Hero bets $45
V calls $45

Pot: $135


Turn:
Tc

Hero bets $135
V goes all-in for a) $235 b) $270 c) $300
hand deja vu?!?

betting pot has it's place, just as overbetting does, just as betting other amounts does.

then again, i dont see a question anywhere in the thread.
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03-23-2015 , 11:48 PM
it depends.
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03-24-2015 , 01:07 PM
Overall, I bet PSBs when I need to bet PSBs in order to get stacks in. And I typically only want to get stacks in over 3 postflop streets when I have a monster (TP does not apply). And typically most Villains are either calling a reasonable bet or they ain't, and a PSB is reasonable. And typically most Villains aren't paying attention to the times we bet 1/2 PSB with air / weak hand cbet / non committing bets.

It's 100% transparent strategy. But it works at this level against most opponents. Obviously if your opponent in the hand is much better than your typical opponent, then you might have to switch it up a bit.

In your hand example, I think your postflop strategy was bad because we gave the opponent at bare minimum 20x implied odds preflop / created a largish SPR of 9+, so we simply can't stack off postflop versus him with just one pair. We should have tailored our postflop plan accordingly (bet/folding smaller amounts or perhaps even checking a street behind). The way you played the hand got you pot stuck by the river, which means you'll most likely have to call (as Villain shows up with an overpair / draw / spaz enough of the time).

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