[QUOTE=BigPavelski;51731161] Nothing wrong with 3 betting preflop obviously. But calling is OK too. If we 3 bet preflop, the hand plays differently which could be good or bad, but the whole hand is different so I dont see the point in talking about what might have happened. If hero 3 bets preflop, the LAG may have 4 bet and we would fold QQ alot of the time. Why waste time talking about things that didnt happen?

[QUOTE=MikeStarr;51732449]
My point is I don't want to go to the turn 4 ways as well which is why I'm leaning towards a raise on flop

I'd also prefer to not go to the flop or turn multiway.

Regarding preflop, we only have the 2 blinds and the lone limper to react. There's a very good chance flatting will produce a HU pot, and I'd guess the typical worse case scenario is probably 3 ways. Unless blinds are loose, I highly doubt we were expecting the absolute maximum worse case of 5ways.

Now that we're in this multiway situation on the flop, I think we should lean towards treading carefully. After all, we only got in 2% of our stack preflop, so we shouldn't be wanting to quickly get the remaining 98% in with just one pair against 4 opponents (and a flop raise quickly gets us on the road to doing that). Admittedly, the board is drawy and we'd rather not go to the turn multiway. But I think playing conservatively here in position and evaluating what happens is the best of two evils.

GimoG

"Playing conservatively in position " literally made me cringe when I read that .

Maybe I'm doing something wrong

Playing in position gives us the great benefit of evaluating the turn card and actions of all the players in front of us (which often by the turn are fairly honest in a big pot). That's a huge advantage. By raising the flop before we know all that information, we're kinda declining that advantage.

GimoG

grunch:
We are almost always ahead, but
being ahead != being able to get value.

That said, $100 seems like a fun bet.