Hero is in town for 5 days, games have been mediocre, was expecting something different, as I play 2/5 back home regularly . 2/5 has been running here but you can match stacks so the 1-2 games they get per night have been bad IMO. Quite deep and not very soft. Have been playing 1/3(match stacks) and bouncing around tables like a freaking rabbit trying to get on a decent game the last 3 days. Anyways this table I'm on is okay, not great a few good regs, couple bad ones and 1-2 nits anyways otth

Hero utg+1 with QQ $600 eff. (Forget suits, not relevant) Straddle is on for $6. Good asian reg opens $25) hero 3! To 70. I choose smaller here because another solid guy to my direct left covers me and V who sat down was playing in 2/5 the other night about 4k deep with probably 30k on table is to his direct left . Anyways nobody ith knows me vice versa no reads for me etc.

Said Villian tanks like 15 secs, says "25 to 70?" And flats, original raiser flats

Flop $210ish : 445r. Utg check, H $110, V $275. Utg folds back to me with $400 ish behind. Fold or GII? Don't feel like I should be folding given my spr in a 3bet pot against a capable villain, although we are only beating JJ imo TT probably doesn't do this hell maybe not even JJ. So do we just go with it knowing we have no Fold equity or what? V could also be dumbing down his play here for the smaller game.

Don't wanna get into preflop sizing as it's trivial in this spot and in reg 2/5 cap games back home I size bigger but have been very frustrated with the games here and already stuck $500 for sesh.

Thoughts?

Very good board for you, this does not hit cold calling 3b range of V and should have no boats/trips here. He should have no flop raises here ip. So I'm either jamming flop OOP, or calling to x/jam turn and keep all his bluff raises in. Not folding with this spr
If he slowplayed KK/AA nh

So GAR opens UTG after the straddle to $25... Seems pretty big.

Hero puts in a medium sized 3b.

V gives a small speech and flats.

Then on a small flop, V puts in a sizeable raise.

This smells like a FPS KK+.

Not sure I cbet as played.

Obviously we're committed with a call here.

Tough spot.

Leaning towards F=S>C and hating it.

I agree Lapidator -- I tend to beware speeches live, but if I was going with that read I would've checked flop and evaluated.

Having bet, my purpose was to GII, so I'm all-in at this point. If your view of this V is that he's just trying to put you in a spot because this is small potatoes for him, then I don't think this was a terrible outcome.

I find the preflop spot tough. I mostly lean to just flatting. We are facing an UTG raise (what was our plan if getting 4bet?). There's very little dead money in the pot compared to big stacks behind. A flat will obviously invite others into the pot (not great, although the more that come in the more we can almost ~setmine). But a flat might also invite a squeeze, where we can then reraise and setup a trivial committing SPR with these stacks. But I'm passive like that.

Warning bells should be going off with the next guy (who I'm assuming is a non-moran) in EP taking a 3bet cold to the face, right?

I might lean to a check on the flop. It's risky in that it may give some free cards. But our hand becomes less face up and may entice worse hands to think they are best and bet for us. As played, we look like we have a big pear in a big pot where we likely can't fold and this guy doesn't care, so I'd probably lean to a fold in spite of the committing SPR (which don't become nearly as committing in 3bet pots and this action, imo).

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Utg had also iso raised a fish to his right a number of times, he isn't some super nit and since when is a 4x raise on a straddle big? I don't want this to go 5 ways oop and I'm not set mining with QQ 100bb eff wtf. Also V may have asked "25" because of a single chip and didn't hear action may have had head turned or something don't remember but I'm not putting much into him asking if the single chip was a raise or not from asian

That still doesn't mean it's horrible to flat here.

Is raiser going to muck most of his non-premiums to a 3bet from us next to act in EP? If so, taking down $30 isn't like some huge coup.

There's currently $30 in the pot. We have $600 stacks behind. What's more important?

If we flat, lots of good things can still happen. It may get squeezed, which then creates significant dead money worth winning right away and otherwise we setup a trivial SPR to easily commit to with an overpair. It may end up HU (maybe?) and then we play HU in position against the raiser. It may end up 3ways with us, the raiser and the fish and us in position (not a horrendous result). And if it ends up 5ways, yeah, not great, but if that's the case then we play a little more ~setminey and quietly fold A/K flops and move on with life.

Gflattingisanoption,that'sallI'msayingG

Now that I've bet the flop, I probably just gii. If he slow-played AA/KK or in some weird, evil poker god scenario has a 4 (or 55), so be it. He could have JJ, AK or even 67.

BTW, when I'm in New Orleans, I stick to PLO (OK, I do that everywhere). They are usually crazy and bad

Why are you betting half pot? Anyways, you said he's capable, which means he might have AK sometime, but I get the feeling that he might be a '1/3 player' because he opened his stupid mouth preflop in this spot. To me that means the $600 stack means a lot more than it might to you. Not monetarily, but when it comes to stacking off on flops, '1/3 players' that aren't dumb are usually dumping in $500 (he is effectively shoving) only with the nuts here. Real close, but I don't think I want to leave $500 in New Orleans in this fashion. So hard to advise a fold, but fold.

What's the proper flop sizing? Why is 1/2 bad here?

In these 3 and 4 bet pots you just want calls on these nothing flops, just bet bet bet mostly with your whole range.

But we did bet 1/2 pot OTF, and your earlier post seems to imply that was bad. Are you saying we should size down or up or what?

+1 to a smaller flop bet

Probably just getting it in on flop. Of course we don't love the speech and the action but wouldn't KK/AA just keep slowplaying to keep your bluffs in? If he's spaz enough to play KK/AA this way then same can be said for a bunch of other dumb stuff.

Half pot isn’t small. Just trying to get worse to call over a few streets, plus the guy cold called 70 and seems to be trying to win. So we can bet 55-60 and he can choose to call just about everything drawing thin.

V is not some random drooler. 1/2 pot is totally fine with my spr on a dry AF flop in a 3 bet pot. It boils down to IMO if he has JJ enough to make this flop jam

I’d size down against both GA and your V. Nothing to do with your opponent unless a confirmed fool where you can just bet and shove and get paid off by worse.

Is he jamming JJ because he’s bluffing or ‘protecting’ against AK. Keep in mind if he’s not a drooler than he’s not jamming JJ.

Exactly how spazzy can it be if OP / others can't wait to get their chips in on the flop?

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When we have specifically QQ it is pretty gross and he gets us playing this way, but we get let off the hook a lot when we have air and V makes the same play. It doesn't look so smart to blow us off AK/AQ/worse overpair when he value raises flop.