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11-15-2018 , 12:11 AM
UTG ($250) is new to the table, but is an older Hispanic man that is very thin with raggedy clothes and doesn’t speak English.

CO ($450) is a friend that I play in home games with fairly often. Plays pretty loose preflop, then becomes a station unless he is very nutted.

H on BTN ($550) is playing what appears to be super aggro due to a string of run good.

UTG raises to $12, UTG1, MP1, MP2, CO call. H calls with 97dd.

Flop ($72) 8d6c2c

UTG bets $25. CO and H call.

Turn ($147) Qd

UTG bets $100. CO and H call.

River ($447) 5d

UTG checks, CO bets $100, H jams.

Interested in all streets analysis.

I think raising flop vs calling is close.

I think jamming turn can’t be bad in this spot.

River shove seems standard.

I have UTG on 99+ and suited broadway clubs. I have cutoff on club draws and all flopped sets.
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11-15-2018 , 01:24 AM
WP all streets imo.

Pre good, we have BTN vs relatively small open/not too big.

Flop we are not getting folds here, utg c-bet 6-way to the flop and someone else called. They are going to have a lot of double overs + FD or overpairs and you have 0 FE.

Turn i like flatting as well, we are getting a good price IP and can get paid. Again, i dont think we have much FE when flop started 6 way and there are two people putting in big $$$$$$. Somebody has an overpair or both, or someone has a big draw or both and jamming is spew imo. Plus they will be getting an amazing price to call so they'll just say f it i call.

River standard.

I'd think differently about their ranges, CO shouldnt really have any sets here when he flats 1/3 cbet on flop and flats again ott with dbl flush draw and bunch of SD out there.
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11-15-2018 , 01:26 AM
Not a fan of the idea of a flop raise, I think it's inferring too much from sizing against someone who is a good chance to play unpredictably. Jamming turn looks counterproductive as UTG looks to be committed and you want to have CO in if you hit. River shove looks standard.
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11-15-2018 , 05:24 AM
Preflop
Is good not folding here too often and raising seems spewy.
Flop is pretty easy call, rarely raising here as unknown villian may just shove then we have to fold.
Never folding given price.
Turn
Again villain bets so he has something and with a call I cant see a raise working that often.
While we do have a big draw we really only have 9 high so no need to get stacks in on that.
River
Hit your bdfd, now it is time for value,it really depends on how stationy cutoff is, i dont really know if a shove will get called here often enough for it too be good.
If you range villain on set's maybe it get paid off.
If you think he is capable of calling for a gutshot for 2 street then shoving is good.
I think if i played i would probably bet 350ish on river. Maybe the pfr calls maybe not.


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11-15-2018 , 03:00 PM
Wp
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11-15-2018 , 03:21 PM
River shove is not standard here at all.

I lean towards just calling here.

CO(villain) is well known to you so of course you're well known to him. You're action here depends on history between you two.

What will he have that can call your river shove with? Set? No way with this action. 2 pair? No way. Straight? Maybe but we hold 97dd blockers. The way this board and betting ran out we're only getting called on a river shove if he has us beat.......(tho could always fold out a bigger flush that's not the nuts/near nuts)
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11-15-2018 , 06:10 PM
Looks good to me. Disguised flush, kind of looks like some sort of bluff w/ a 75s type hand at least some of the time. Price is pretty good to draw at it every street, too.

Given the runout it's hard for CO to have a flush as well.
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11-15-2018 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crsseyed
River shove is not standard here at all.

I lean towards just calling here.

CO(villain) is well known to you so of course you're well known to him. You're action here depends on history between you two.

What will he have that can call your river shove with? Set? No way with this action. 2 pair? No way. Straight? Maybe but we hold 97dd blockers. The way this board and betting ran out we're only getting called on a river shove if he has us beat.......(tho could always fold out a bigger flush that's not the nuts/near nuts)
Also, the UTG player sounds like the type who might easily call the $100 with as little as 1 pair.

Though, who knows, maybe he'll even call the jam? Also, since our flush is BD and the river bettor is a station and the pot is huge, I think shove is best.

Also, why I wouldn't raise flop. Against a conservative, regular player it could be a good play because they have all these people who called the flop behind them and PPs start to look pretty bad. My guess is that this V just plays his hand.
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