Hero ($300): Young quiet nitty reggish guy, table looks scared when he's in a pot.. you know that "hoodie" feeling..

Hero limps QTdd in EP, 1 limper, folds around to BTN who makes it $10 (wtf), SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls, limper calls... assume everyone has $300 to begin with

Flop ($50): Kc Jc 6s
BTN bets $30, SB calls, Hero calls

Turn ($140): 2d
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River ($140): 6d
SB checks, Hero ???

Also, was Hero better off raising or folding pre?

Also, how does one react to these silly $10-$13 raises by LPers over 2-3 limpers, they seem to be bloating pots in position with speculative hands all the time, and Hero, for example, is enticed into limp-calling with hands like suited broadways, Ax suited, etc. to these raises, and fold when missed...

Raise or fold pre; don't open limp.

I'm a bit nitty, but I probably fold the flop. I'd be uncomforable if the A or 9 of clubs peeled.

As played you can certainly stab at it to represent the flush, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the button holding the flush here.

Fold pre.

Also, depending on table, leading the flop seems fine.

Sorry, it's an offsuit 6 otr...

In that case, fold. You have nothing to represent, and your image in this hand has been weak, weak, weak.

First of all if you are using your image to bluff, you need some reads on the Villains and how they perceive you. "That hoodie feeling" is not really enough to bluff into 3 people in a $140 pot on the river with Queen-high.

Preflop depends completely on table dynamics, but personally I fold this the vast majority of the time, and the way your hand played out explains why. If you had position, you could have fired out the turn with more certainty that at least BTN doesn't have top pair.

As played, I like the flop call because you are almost getting direct odds to your draw (~4 to 1 vs 4.5 to 1 needed), and it is a fairly concealed draw that actually might improve your Villians hand, so you are more likely to get paid off when hit.

As played, I'm only bluffing river with a very specific read that I'm playing weak-tight opponents and there's no way BTN is checking turn with a King. I would bet $100 to fold out draws and mid-pairs. But without a very good handle on these players, I'm giving up.

Hero could have KQ, KT here?

Pls wait 24 hours before posting results... We could have had a nice discussion going about this.

C/R on the river here is a bit extreme and would require really advanced reads.

As mentioned in my post, you could have led out on the river as a bluff, under the right circumstances. But checking is fine if you were not sure-- don't be results oriented.

If you want to bluff at this pot you are better off check-raising the flop or betting the turn IMO. If they call but look weak you can still bluff at the river. Remember that your bets tell a story. How would you have played KT here? If you would have check/called the river and checked the turn and then bet half the pot on the river with KT then you could follow the same line with QT. I highly doubt you actually do that with KT here.

What makes you doubt it?

Sorry about that.. I just wanted to get a simultaneous discussion going on the BTN's tendencies that's why I posted it... my bad

Assuming KT is in his UTG limp/calling range, how else would he play it post-flop?

True there are draws out there, but I don't think there is any value in check/raising flop or donk-leading the turn 3-handed with top pair weak kicker. That would be overplaying the hand.

If anything, this is exactly how he would play a weak king... Call flop and re-evaluate. Keep the pot small.

If that's the case I would have definitely taken a stab at the river. If you bluff $70 into a $140 pot you only have to win 1 out of 3 times. And if you get called it helps your value bets (which most of your river bets will be) get called so it's a win-win.

I'm a big fan of purposefully playing two hands the same way rather than playing hands in three different ways consistently (draw, weak made hand and strong made hand).

I'm cool with open limping suited broadway at limpy tables and paying off a small raise to see a multiway flop.

Flop is dicey. Button has continued betting into the world, which is strong, and this is good for our implied odds hand (cuz we don't want him to fold if we hit). The bad thing is that that some of our outs might be dirty or kill the action, plus we're not closing the action. I think flop is close.

I also just check/evaluate (most likely calling any reasonable bet) on the turn.

I might take a shot at this on the river. Looks like we have a nitty image. If Button had TP+ he probably would have bet the turn on this drawy board. SB mighta donked the river for value with TP+ once the turn checks around. We're basically just repping TP here and hoping we are given credit. It's not a great spot as we are up against 2 opponents, but I don't mind a bluff here. I would actually go on the smallish side which (a) looks very valuey and (b) doesn't have to work all that often to be profitable. I would bet like around 1/2 PSB of $70 here unless reads told me otherwise (and I am a little concerned that Button is stronger than I think given that he still bet the flop into the world).

ETA: Agree with others that this is the exact way someone would play KT/etc. here, so our story is a fairly solid one. Bluffing spots don't come up all that often at these limits, and one of the keys is to recognize when they do, and this is a fairly decent spot, imo.

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Limp/call pre is fine imo.
I'd lean to a fold on the flop, but call is fine too.
Don't bet OTR here after checking OTT, it looks like a bricked draw a lot. You are getting looked up by almost all PP's, midlle pairs and maybe even AQ.

I don't like the bluff here. Sure, we may be trying to sell the KT story. That's not the story they will see though. They will put us on a missed flush draw and call with any pair and ace high sometimes. So I don't think bluffing can be profitable. Otoh, thin value betting would be very profitable in this spot for the reasons I listed above.

Anyone that would recommend a c/r on the river is just being results oriented.

I'd limp-fold pf. I realize that some would call that a leak in my game and say that I should open raise or fold instead of limp in the first place. So maybe raise and size that raise depending on the table conditions or just fold. Funny how as I'm writing this I'm starting to feel that limp folding is bad here, but I hate limp calling in spots like this so maybe raising or folding is better.

No way am I bluffing the river here. You haven't shown aggression the entire hand and have nothing to represent. And I'm not confident enough that all your opponents are super weak there.

Edit: Okay maybe you can represent KT, but I'm not sure that's obvious enough to your opponents. In other words, they might not see that, and many would check KT out of fear on the river, especially the types that are "just happy to win what's there."

A common leak is not betting for value enough on the river, and I'd expect a check from a lot of villains with KT. Plus a lot of villains would fear a c/r in $140 pot, even if it's unlikely. A lot of people just don't have the courage or the knowledge to value bet in spots like the one on the river.