Hi all,

Thoughts on this?

V1 has been opening about 2-3x per orbit. He has a fold button I think he really respects me.

V2 newer guy. Calls too much pre. I have seen him over fold prob too much.

V3: he is the effective stack with 225. He may be a bit tilted and calling too much. Kinda aggressive too tho.

H: very very card dead. Very tight image I have 265 to start

OTTH: V1 raises to 12 UTG+1 V2 calls next to act. V3 calls in the HH

I SQUEEZE to 55 with KQ off V 1 and v2 fold

v3 jams.

Thoughts?

I tried to use my amazing image here

Honestly I could go either way here.. calling is just more high variance but I don't see one option as being clearly superior to the other option. If he has like 77 or A4s you're slightly priced in to call but obviously this isn't the ideal way to crush your 1/3 live game, so I could go either way.

Pre is meh but ok vs this opener. Needs to be 60+, 55 too small.

Ap i just fold

I figure too we could be flipping quite a bit.

Generally I think this works over 50% of the time especially with my current image and I’m happy to take down 40 bucks pre

Every game/table dynamic is different, but I don't 3bet here. We're in position 4 handed, just call and see a flop.

When you're very card dead often you think "if I 3bet here they have to give me respect for a big hand cause I'm not playing any hands". But actually that's not what other people see at LLSNL. They just see a guy who's not winning. A 3bet here would be way more effective if you're running in God-mode. Save your marginal 3bets for then.

As played you have to be behind of course. He's not doing this with JTs. I probably fold here. I'd have to range it but looks like he's JJ+, AK; Strongly leaning towards AK....

I really dont think you have 50% collective fold equity here vs 3 people.

A lot of times you’ll see AK here and be crushed, or even QQ rarely.

OP describes villain as tilted, you don't think a tilted player would be 3betting AK often?

I guess it depends on the read/type of player V3 is, and I didn't really get a clear sense of it from OPs post. I do understand the player types of V1 and V2, and from those descriptions I do like the squeeze.

You could be right, but I think it comes down to how aggro V3 is preflop... like last night I was at a 2/5 table where people were just limp-calling AK...but if V3 is tilted then who knows.

I think his range is going to be mostly PP/suited broadways/offsuit broadways like KQ/KJ, AK/AJ/AQ, maybe even A10. Dont think we have enough equity to call off. Ofc he 3b AK a god amount here but i see a lot of players back jamming AK

His line is BS and he’s tilty. Call it off comfortably.

On second look, this might actually be a clear call. I did the math wrong initially - we're risking $170 to win about $300 so we only need 36% equity. We're doing totally fine against a range of JJ-22, AK-AJ, KQ-KJ with 44% equity and if we throw in QJ it's more like 47%. Even if we remove KJ we're at 40% which is still all right given the pot odds.

Really high variance play here but I can't blame a call.

Given the thin reads on opponents, I'm guessing you don't have a lot of history with them. Given that, I prefer to call in position and see a flop. I default to the "hit a hand and get paid" strategy at LLSNL and avoid getting too fancy until I know my opponents better.

As played, if you really think villain is on tilt and you can withstand the variance, I say call it off. I've seen tilted villains do this with small pairs, offsuit broadways, even small suited connectors. Just remember it's high variance.

Ok if that math is rightt we should probably be calling. Didnt actually calculate the pot odds.

That range you given isnt very good though because you’re giving 100% frequencies to all those hands, and that’s probably not true. You’re also including JJ at 100% freq but gave 0% freq to QQ?? If he can have JJ here he can also have KK/AA say at 8% frequency and then QQ at 30% frequency. When you assign ranges you cant just throw random hands in and throw random hands out, both at 0% and the other at 100% frequency. Although i think you are right that calling here should be +EV yet high variance. I’d say we have around 38-43% equity vs his overall range.

I just think pre is pretty meh and totally unnecessary against whales and gambley/tilted players. Most players dont care if you seem card dead. Some people literally arent even paying attention. They’ll call one way or another. If you’re a LAG, they dont wanna get pushed around. If you’re a nit, they’ll call with hands to try to crack your premiums or just put you on AK

That's how it looks to me. It seems unbelievable that he would have cold-called with a premium hand after a raise and two cold calls. It really smells like 77-JJ, with some AK and suited Bdwy.

Since you seem to be getting 2:1 on the call (unless I screwed up the math), I don't see how you could possibly fold this. In fact, even if we give the Villain a ridiculously strong range like QQ+, KQ/KQs, AQ/AQs we are barely a 3:1 dog. Adding in all the PPs 77-JJ makes us exactly a 2:1 dog. And we still haven't included possible spaz hands like QJs, AJo, etc.

I feel like I could have him dominated here more than he could have me dominated slightly. I definitely expect him to have more AQ than AK. I think he even folds AQ some of the time. In real time I thought maybe he could spazz with KJ or QJ as well