Yesterday was at interesting table. I am in Seat 3. Stack 380


Seat 9,1,2 are total rocks. Folding every hand. Made a note, not to play against them. 300+ stack

Seat 5,6 are switching between tags and lags. 800+ stack

Seat 7 looks like a tag+omc 200+ stack

Seat 8 is the target of the table. Limping, raising anything and just playing for fun. I have been iso raising him and calling with top pair successfully. 300 just did a rebuy. Still calling preflop but trying to tighten up post flop.

Seat 4 a white old man with beard just set down. No reads. 350

I am constantly talking with Seat 8 and trying to make him have some fun. My image would be lag or maybe fishy
I folded to some river bets, but have been winning recently with good hands.


On the hand.
Seat 4 UTG min raise to 7.

5 callers, including seat 8.
seat 2 went all in for 8.he lost recent hand to a bad river.

I wake up with KK in BB.
I joke with sb, I will give you protection, and raise it to 55.


Seat 4 old man called. Seat 8 fish called.


QUESTION >>>IS THIS TOO SMALL RAISE. target players have effective 350-400..

Pot 200+

Flop 99Q

I am first to act.
Bet size??

With this much dead money and this many potential players, I probably size it slightly larger preflop (although our sizing does a decent job of prevent ~setmining IO with our stack). With our image we could perhaps even go really large, or even consider lol shoving (it just takes one non-believer to call some of the time for this to be fairly profitable).

I'd probably go like $75 on the flop which might entice all pairs to call one bet. The OESD is drawing to much fewer outs than they think and otherwise the board is drawless. This will setup a $350 HU pot with about $225 left on the turn which we could massage in over the turn/river or just shove depending on how drawy it gets.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Just 3 hands back I limped UTG and reraised to 80 with 7 limpers with KK.
One guy all in with 120 behind.I Won that pot.

So people have seen me being really big with KKs pre.




.. On flop, I didn't want to let AQ, J-10, OR any Ace draw me out.

So with 200 in pot, I went 120 cbet.

Old guy UTG shoved for total 300. Seat 8 fish folded.

So 180 to call with 620 in pot.
He can be doing it with AQ, j10.. I don't think AA or QQ as he didn't reraise ME preflop. Didn't even think about it.
9-10s is the only logical fearsome hand, with a big gambler.

Would this be a very exploitable fold??

With an SPR of ~1.5 there is no way we should ever consider folding here. If he got in a huge 1/7th of his stack preflop with worse and outflopped us, we can (and should) pay him off every single time and we'll still be profitable. We're still beat here a decent amount (AA and QQ are both not out of the question, as are random lol 9s), but we run into enough worse stuff that folding is out of the question in a pot this relatively big to stacks.

Gcall,dealwithresults,nicehand,nothingtoseehereG

I would go $65-$75 pre and $125/call OTF. Never folding on that board.

With all do respect, and in no way do I want to be annoying and drive you out of the forum, however, I would suggest you don’t spend much if any of your study time thinking about hand histories, and rather spend your time on studying or re-studying fundamentals.

Again, I don’t want to kill your enthusiasm and am trying to be as helpful as I can be. This statement is a huge red-flag “On flop, I didn't want to let AQ, J-10, OR any Ace draw me out.”.

With that said, I think you played it well. I hope you would call here. As written I expect you did and lost. If that happened I think you played it well and ran into the top of someone’s range. It happens. It would take a very specific read for me to fold.

The comments about a smaller c-bet and are reasonable but I’m not sure it matters that much in this spot.

Although there are one fish and one OMC, I assigned them a pretty tight range of AA-99,AK-AQ FLOP cbet calling range. Even with such a strong range our 1/2 pot cbet is very profitable. In real life i expect V to be calling with a even wider range of hands. 1/2 is good, to induce calls from a wider range of weaker hands. Ps. When I calculated it shown that 1/2 pot bets are the most profitable when compared with 3/4 and pot sized bets OTF.

He did show up with lol 8-9 offsuit. And it was good till river. Just wondering can I ever get away from this hand.

Looks like I can't.

But in recent future same thing happened 3-4 times..
So if someone calls me for 20 BB pre and hits, I am ready to stack off my 120 BB stack?

This is too general a question. You have to do a realistic assessment of V's range in that individual spot, and what your equity is against it.

In this hand, you should never, ever fold.

HU you should (imo, even though it will mostly be very uncomfortably so against all but the most clueless of players), but as it goes more and more multiway that becomes much more difficut of a spot (and yet you'll still have a super small and perhaps handcuffing SPR which is why I attempt to avoid those spots).

GgoodluckG

In a multiway raised pot it’s hard to not get it in on the river if you’re betting 3 street, unless your betting less than half pot each street.

Just woke up, did another round of calculations and RA.

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On both ranges, we assume the effective stack is 350$ before any post flop action and we cbet 100$ and am left with 250$

1) AA-QQ,99,A9-89,AQ,KQ,QJ-QT,JT

This range includes weaker TP and OESD

If we cbet and V shoves, we call, very profitable.

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2) AA-QQ,99,A9-89,AQ,KQ

On this range, we removed the weaker TP and OESD

We cbet and V shoves, we call, marginally profitable

Well, it looks like getting it in is ok. If V is fishy enough to call FLOP cbet or even shove with TPWK and mid setminers OTF after we cbet, our equity only goes up