Button straddles ($6), 3 callers in front of me. I raise to 35.
Button is very aggro and have played with him before (500). Bets a lot with or without. Don't think he remembers me though. Old man sitting to my right is very passive (300).
Button and old man call, everyone else folds.
Flop: QQ2 rainbow
Old man checks, I bet 70. Button says he puts me all in, old man folds.
I'm calling because of your stack size... you're getting 2.65:1 to call and I would think you're crushing a lot of his range.
Suq, is he really repping only an overpair at this point? The pot was straddled with 3 limpers, so he raised it up to $35. I would do the same thing with 99+ and things like AK, AQ, AJ. The villain might shove with any pocket pair thinking he is good and could even be bluffing given the OP's description.
Here's the usual dynamic at LLHE when the board pairs.
1. If a player flops trips, he must disguise his hand by checking the flop.
2. It is considered very clever to bet into a paired board to represent trips and take down the pot.
3. However, such a person could not actually have trips, otherwise he would have checked.
4. Therefore, it is recommended that you raise when a person donks into a paired board.
5. Unless you actually have made trips, in which case you must smooth call and then raise on the river.
Fish logic therefore holds:
1. That you can't possibly have Q (true)
2. Villain doesn't have Q either
Suq, is he really repping only an overpair at this point? The pot was straddled with 3 limpers, so he raised it up to $35. I would do the same thing with 99+ and things like AK, AQ, AJ. The villain might shove with any pocket pair thinking he is good and could even be bluffing given the OP's description.
im tightening hero's range to overpairs because he lead the flop
Is it possible he smooth called pf with Aces? Definitely.
Is it possible he called $29 more with a Q? [QQ, AQ, KQ, QJ, QTs-Q8s]. Absolutely.
Is it more likely he has a worse hand than above? Based on the limited info available, it sounds like the answer is yes. I would call, especially knowing he'll push with air. Its also possible he has KK. If your bankroll can't afford to call this bet once in a while (assuming you have about the same information available each time), you shouldn't be playing. Either way, your table image will improve IMO.
AbqDave: assuming villain who bets flop doesnt have trips (even @ LLNLH) is a scary strategy IMHO. Nobody said this guy was a fish.
I would probably call this reluctantly expecting him to show something like AQ knowing that you have KK/AA, but you are winning this hand more often than not. He could also have any other smaller PP and put you on AK or thinks he can get you to fold 99-JJ, even though those are pretty much the same as KK in this spot.
Here's the usual dynamic at LLHE when the board pairs.
1. If a player flops trips, he must disguise his hand by checking the flop.
2. It is considered very clever to bet into a paired board to represent trips and take down the pot.
3. However, such a person could not actually have trips, otherwise he would have checked.
4. Therefore, it is recommended that you raise when a person donks into a paired board.
5. Unless you actually have made trips, in which case you must smooth call and then raise on the river.
Fish logic therefore holds:
1. That you can't possibly have Q (true)
2. Villain doesn't have Q either
assuming villain who bets flop doesnt have trips (even @ LLNLH) is a scary strategy IMHO. Nobody said this guy was a fish.
Yes, do not try this at home.
Like most satire however there is an element of truth to this. Bluff raising someone who donks into a paired board is really fun. Heck, I do it all the time. Unless aggro villain has been showing hero a lot of respect, I think you have to heavily weight bluff here. I say shove or find a different table.
I mean, for Pete's sake. If you're going to engage an aggromonkey like this, this is the dream hand/dream situation. If you can't shove KK here then why even engage the guy.
This is a snap-call for me. If he has AA or Q or 22, gg. Way too little money behind and way too many hands in his range to even consider anything else.
We've created an SPR pot of <2, have an overpair, are up against an aggro, and started the hand with ~37 BBs due to straddle.
ETA: Can't believe the overthinking that is being done in this thread. There's nothing to think about. This hand plays itself postflop in terms of us being committed, the only question is whether to check to give the aggro a chance to hang himself (a valid option, imo).
Check flop or bet smaller. No point in betting this big unless villains are massive calling stations.
Turn is a spot that depends if he has seen you slowplay in the past and if you have seen him slowplay. If he thinks you would normally slowplay a Q here or if you think he slowplays a Q I would stack off, otherwise fold.
yeah def check this flop, not because you fear being behind but because SPR is small and you say in your OP he can bluff so why not give him some leash.
I think you see a Q here more often than some are saying just because you've shown nothing but strenght in the hand so villain has to think you are strong when he makes this ship but pot odds prolly force you to call IMO since he can have worse also.
See I think I leveled myself here because I figured with his polarized aggression he's actually shoving the Q here when hes got old guy still to act before me. I folded he flipped like 64hh or something.
See I think I leveled myself here because I figured with his polarized aggression he's actually shoving the Q here when hes got old guy still to act before me. I folded he flipped like 64hh or something.
