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If he chooses to flat pre, then yes we will get stacked. But there is almost no way he would ever flat pre with AA. He doesn't expect you to 4bet fold ever, so why would he flat with AA and give you a chance to fold if a scary flop comes?? You're looking to find every worst case scenario. There is always a possibility of him flatting AA of course but they are sooooo small in comparison to him 5betting AA

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02-03-2014 , 12:46 AM

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daniel9861

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I like slim's line here. It's essentially the same idea as bet/folding TPTK postflop. We get value from worse and know we're likely ahead when he just flats and fold to a 5bet because he's only shoving with better.

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02-03-2014 , 02:39 AM

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DrChesspain

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Originally Posted by cardbrute

you have KK vs QQ and were unable to commit opponents chips before or after flop. Stop fearing coolers and gii. This type of logic is just so bad, you're always getting stacked if opponent has AA failing to extract maximum value vs weaker parts of opp range that you're coolering is a hideous leak bad live nitfish have.

I can respect someone who really commits himself to Level 1 thinking.

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02-03-2014 , 04:46 AM

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cardbrute

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Originally Posted by DrChesspain

I can respect someone who really commits himself to Level 1 thinking.

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please go on....

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02-03-2014 , 04:54 AM

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ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by fizzypants

And what makes you think they will not flat your min 4bet with AA and trap you postflop

just how many 70-year-olds do you know who will take that line? ever?

just how many players at $1/$3 AT ALL do you know who will take that line? ever?

i wouldn't worried about your villain getting trappy. it just doesn't happen. if he has AA he knows you are going to fold if an A comes, so he wants to get as much $$ in as possible preflop.

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02-03-2014 , 05:17 AM

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Bill Hickok

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If you are going to get stacked by aces and not stack queens and you know had aa or qq, then it's a clear fold as you have rio hand. Better than folding play so you stack qq and lose min to aa by taking slim's 4b fold line. But folding pre had to be better than what you did if you going stack off vs aa.

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