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Originally Posted by Ollieeeee
Ummm care to expand on this?
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Originally Posted by dj_goldman
I couldn't disagree more. Given description of villain, AQ and lower PP's are a decent part of his range after the preflop call. The c-bet can get value from these. Villain may call light as c-bet are often perceived as auto-bets.
More importantly, villain may have a heart in his hand. (Especially Ah.) Betting the flop to protect hero's hand is absolutely essential. Monotone texture shouldn't be an overriding factor given SPR's and the fact flop was HU's.
AQ and semi-bluffs are a good chunk of villain's range after the raise. (C/r may not be in villain's nature but there are so many many combo's of these in villain's range and villains often surprise.) Get it all in on the flop. Too bad if villain has a flush or QQ, but this is the only move given stack sizes and villain's wide preflop range.
"protect your hand" is fishspeak, and not a valid reason to do anything.
I assume you mean you want to get value from a hand that has the Ah in it, which is not a totally unreasonable position. However, since our equity edge is not very high, we simply aren't getting much value from a hand with the Ah in it. We have like a 55-45 edge. Our $50 bet, when called by AhX yields us about 5 bucks in value. It also makes the pot less managable and puts us in a spot where we might have to fold to a rr.
What else can we get value from? IME, most llnl players are frightened by monotone boards. I do not think that very many are going to continue without either the Kh or Ah , or without a pair plus a heart. We have the same sort of slim edge against all these hands. We simply don't make all that much on a value bet.
Now if we figure that our opponent is loose enough to be calling us with a hand like qsts here, then yeah, i go ahead and bet it every time.... but my experience is that a monotone board tightens up llnl players quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Isn't pot $80+ going to the flop? If so, the SPR is ~4 and we have an overpair.
I pot flop so that I can shove turn and I'm never folding.
If villain put in ~1/9 of his stack preflop and flopped a better hand to my overpair, nice hand sir, let me arrange all my chips in some nice stacks and politely push them all to you.
Gpreflopmakespostflopdeadeasy,imoG
this post has me rethinking, because youre one of the posters who is right in line with my thinking like 95% of the time,.... but im still folding.