V1(220) - a rare aggressive female - just sat down from being at the bars - whistled threw first $300 pretty fast by doing stuff like jamming pot with 2nd pair - talking it up, saying she loves to bluff/will always raise her button, etc.

V2 (180) - old black guy, can't see the board well, kind of a calling station, has gone through 1100 - 1200 in about 4 hours, but has been somewhat unlucky

Hero(300) - raising a lot pre - lot of cbetting pre - though V1 wouldn't know that being new to table

H UTG raises to 15 with KK, V1 in MP calls, V2 in CO calls, V3
on Button goes AI for 65, H smooth calls to keep both V1 and V2 in hand - didn't want to push and cap winnings at loose table to 95 with KK. V1, V2 calls.

Flop(4, $255) T 4 4



Action on H, V1 picks her stack of remaining chips and starts waiving them like she's going to jam (actually flirting with forward motion). But not really a show of strength , pot big enough, so I jam.

thoughts?

Its fine as played. But when you pick up the tell from V1 i think you just need to check this and let villain do her thing (regarding description of spazz/bluffhappy) to jam in the rest. Its those details that really get you on the way to crusher winrates, when you manage to pick up things like this in game and adjust appropriately for maximum exploitation.

The flop is amazing for your hand also, besides hitting a set this is as good as it gets.

I'm not convinced with checking flop based on what V1 is doing. I've seen this type of act plenty of times go the other way where you check and they just check behind. If anything I'd rather put a smaller bet like 40 to give the illusion it's a blocking bet and I might fold to a jam.

I agree in a vacuum or if villain was a tighter player who rarely gets out of line,because as you said the tell isnt always correlated to that villain actually is gonna jam.

However with this description of an actiony lady that likes to play second pair fast, spazz and run bluffs- we just need to give this kind of villain as much rope as possible to put her money in the middle by herself in spots like this. I am big fan of Limon, and one of the most valuable concepts i learned from him is to let rec players and fish lose their money like each of them prefer. This lady obviously is most likely to put her money in the middle if she gets the chance to be doing the betting or raising. Other villains wants to lose their money more slowly by calling alot and so forth.

Edit: check and make her "put us on AK", and jam it in with her 55-99 mid pairs would be sexy as hell.

To think about the hand one step further, I'd check here and if checked thru, I'd also check every turn. Some people just can't help themselves, sounds like she might be one of them.

She could still do the same if she has a hand like 99 if you bet small. And if she is that spazzy a small bet isn't likely to deter her. I just don't want it to check through because she was making some "tell" .

I find this is a super common false tell where a V is trying to scare you into checking so they can see another card with 2 overs. Go for it.

At loose tables like this I'm open limping and hoping to get in a limp/reraise with a bunch of dead money in the pot. Would have really hated our result if half the world calls as it just puts us in so many horrendous spots, imo (but if you think that is a fine result, whatever floats your boat, that's fine). If I was to open, I'd open to like $25 so as to get in 10%+ against the likely action stacks (where I can stack off trivially postflop on non-A boards). There's a crapload of dead money in the pot at this point, and with these stacks I think I just shove. I think there is much more argument for a flat with AA, but the vulnerability of pocket pairs skyrockets very quickly as they get smaller.

I also jam the flop. The grab-my-chips-as-if-I-want-to-bet is typically a fairly common angle attempting to get a free card.

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Money is getting in here. I like a small bet to induce and I'd flatter jam turn.

Pre is good. Definitely raising and I like the flat of the $65.

I like a smaller bet or a check. Shoving just lets them fold worse. Not many draws, so they can't call with much unless they really are terribad and will call with AT or 99-QQ, which they probably 3bet pre -- at least V1.

FWIW, the jam is only a 45% - 60% PSB, so about a 1/2 PSB. And for relatively short stacks against what looks like two spewers. The pot is also protected so it's not as if they're going to jam air themselves looking to steal it.

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Just do whatever you think gets the most $ in as we are never folding. I actually think it is a weaker lead to induce her to do her thing but that is me.

Even though V is nuts I don't think she's going to bluff this board all that often. I'd put in some kind of small bet like $50 and try to string along a mid pp that would otherwise check back a huge % of the time, and could fold to a shove.