Hero always has a stack of $300

HAND 1


Hero sits down at 10 handed 1/3nl, gets dealt 8To, first hand...

3-4 limpers, checks around

Flop($13): Qd Td 8c
Hero bets $10, V1 calls, V2 calls

Turn ($43): 2c
Hero bets $35, V1 raises to $100 (with $100 more behind), V2 folds, Hero folds


HAND 2

Hero gets dealt AKc in MP, makes it $15 over UTG limper, SB, BB and UTG call...

Flop($60): 7c 7s 3d
Checks around to Hero, Hero checks

Turn($60): 2c
SB bets $30, folds around to Hero, Hero calls

River($120): 5s
SB shoves $58 all in, Hero folds


HAND 3


Hero dealt TT in MP, makes it $13 pre, two callers in position...

Flop($40): Js 8s 7c
Hero bets $20 (because I'm tired of playing so passive), Tight V1 makes it $55, V2 folds, Hero folds


HAND 4


Hero limps 22 in EP, semi-tight young guy in SB (eff stacks $300) who mostly folds to Hero's aggression as he perceives Hero to be tight/scary makes it $13, Hero calls...

Flop($30): K K 2 r
V bets $15, Hero makes it $45, V calls

Turn(120): Q r
V checks, Hero bets $95, V folds and says he had the K (I wouldn't deny believing him)


Also, I'd like to get opinions on bet-sizing at these games.. I notice that some of the winners at this stake at my tables bet like 1/3-1/2 pot and get called pretty often by tp, mp type hands but when they bet big, they don't get called by less than 2p. As a follower of 2p2, I usually tend to bet on the bigger side as per the general consensus of forum members here, and it feels like 90+% of the time, I end up getting these loose-passive players to fold unless they have me beat whereas I could have gotten a lot more money from them by keeping my bet sizes small, like 20 on the flop, 35 on the turn, 50 on the river. Ofcourse, if the board is not too wet that is. I'm the type who goes 20, 50, 120 and ends up never getting called, more so because of my tight image too.



Would appreciate any feedback on the way I play and the hands above, thanks..

Hand 1: Did you post in MP or something?

Hand 2: Raise more pre. Probably folding the turn. You picked up clubs? He's not really giving you enough IO but ... A or K might be good if it hits too. Might just shove if I think he's bad enough to fold anything.

Hand 3: Raise more pre. Meh. Take a stab. Get raised. Fold. Obviously, you wish you had check/called a smaller bet to draw.

Hand 4: Fine. Could just flat the flop bet and rep a K and get more a value from the other K ...

You should post these separately, its just easier for everyone to read and respond to.

Anyway...

Hand 1: What position were you in? Generally this is just a fold pre flop. As played it is fine.

Hand 2: Why are you calling the turn? Either bet the flop or just save your money for a better spot. What are you trying to achieve by calling the turn especially versus a shortish stack? Always better to error on the aggressive side.

Hand 3: I don't think betting this flop is horrible, especially since you have straight card blockers. Depends on the villians range.

Hand 4: This is a max value spot. Do whatever you can to get the most money in the pot. I think a slightly smaller bet on the turn like $70 may have been better if you believe he has a K, and he certainly does once he calls on the flop.

Hand 1 : first hand, no reads. limped pot. fold right. Sizing good.

Hand 2 : flop check back good. turn call good. river fold good. you beat nothing. Sizing good.

Hand 3 : Depends on your reads. If you think he has J, fold is right. However I'm keen to peel one more, maybe he are floating and shutting down and check back the turn and we see a free river. flop sizing could be $30~

Hand 4 : Check flop and raise the turn. your hand is face up a bit with ep limp/call. He made a good fold btw if he really has K. Flop c/r size is good, turn size could be ~75.

If you have the best hand bet less close to $100, if you are bluff/semi bluffing bet more than $100 in these pot sizes $100 is a psychological border in LLSNL.

Hand 1. If you are anywhere other than the button, it's a fold pre flop, even in a small stakes game. Suited is slightly different, but still must be played in position. Th way you write I assume you were under the gun? Instant fold preflop.

As played, (and having 0 knowledge whatsoever of the villain[playing style,age, race] it's not a horrible fold. There's a lot he could have there.

Hand 2.

Is $15 a standard raise preflop at this table? If it deviates from the norm, how much? With AK suited you want to isolate, but you also want to see a flop.

Without knowing what $15 means to the table, I can't really decipher much on this hand.

Hand 3.

How tight is villain, and what is his stack? It's difficult to evaluate when we don't have all of the details.

First hand I was BB guys..

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Hand 2, std raises are $12-15 only at table. Nothing off key.

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Hand 1: bet/fold on the turn is what I would have done too. There are many hands that beat yours and while there are many hands we beat, I think most of them call the turn vs. semi-bluff the turn. What suits did you have?

Hand 2: I think I call the turn in heat of the moment. Getting 3:1, need 4:1 I think. Most optimistically we could say something about implied odds if we feel an A/K/ wins your opponents stack on the river and rationalize it. I'm sure some people raise the turn too, figuring only 7x/boats call a shove and that your opponent could bet the turn fairly wide. However, my counter to that would be - we checked back flop multiplay and with no reads our opponent could snap it off with any two pair. Don't think there is much fold. I'd call turn.

Hand 3: bet/fold on flop seems fine. Do you have T? What was your plan vs. a caller on a variety of turns?

hand 4: Seems fine. I might go smaller on the turn. Opponent is going to have between $150-200ish behind after a turn bet regardless of sizing, pot will be $270ish+ most of the time too. There isn't really much harm in sizing slightly smaller. All in all, either you or him is getting coolered or your opponent is going to make a mistake. Not much too it.

Grunch:

Hand 1 looks fine. Hand 3 looks ok w/o reads I guess, but I think c/c is fine against some Villains.

Hand 2: Shove turn. We've got something like 18-25% equity in this pot and it's a 1/2 pot shove, so if Villain is EVER folding, it's +EV.

Hand 4: Fold 22 pf against a Villain like this. It's going to be really hard to extract much value from him when we flop a set. (Unless we're planning to push him off hands a lot when we whiff?)

As for your general question about bet sizing, it depends on the range of the opponent you're trying to get value from. If he has a ton of weak made hands in his range, yeah, value bet small so that he can't resist the 4:1 odds to look you up with 3rd pair. If you have a monster and your opponent has a lot of "2nd nuts" type hands in his range, value bet larger. The sizing is determined by the range you're trying to get value from, not (directly) by your own hand. If you're playing against opponents who always peel a card with any piece of the board and then fold to large bets, then sure, value bet smaller on later streets.

Can someone explain why we can check-call Hand 3? If I check Hand 3, and one of these loose passive 1/3 players bet, I'd feel they atleast have a J so my TT is no good, so the intention would be to fold if I check...

Hand 1: Call, ffs. And then call river.

Hand 2: Fold to turn bet or call river.

Hand 3: Fine.

Hand 4: Given your read of V, why raise him OTF? Let him barrel til he's done, then bet. Won minimum, imo.

That's why I specified "against some Villains." It's the opposite of how to play against loose passives. The optimal lines are going to depend on who the Villains are, and no reads are given, so it's hard to say in a vacuum that a particular line is definitely the best one.

Edit: Sorry, forgot you specified V1 is tight.

hand 1: is a bad fold. calling all day here. also what position were you in?

hand 2: hand 2 seems fine.

hand 3: i like a x/c line for this reason, you bet and get raised and you have to fold a strong hand that has Vs draw beat right now.

hand 4: at 1-2 i can guarantee V did not fold a K. i think you played the hand fine tho.

Hand 1 bad fold? Really?? What are you putting V on??

Check your equity vs his range. Include TP str8 draw, bottom pair flush draw etc. It's hard to put him on a set unless 22, but if you put him on exactly J9, I guess you can fold. With no reads, though, not a smart play. Also, I might discount J9 quite a bit with 2 s OTF and no raise. Looks a lot like QJ who wanted to see another card before deciding.

so you are calling or shoving buster?

Good question. I hadn't actually thought about that. Shove is probably best.

This is why reads are really important. A typical LLSNL loose passive is just not taking this line with QJ/Q9/A2d/combo draws (which is why Baluga theorem is so apt against them). Against an aggro thinking Villain, I'd agree we're doing well enough against their range to shove, but if Villain isn't likely to raise pair+draw/combo draws, this is a super easy fold.

Please go read the stickies before starting another thread. Each hand should get it's own thread. Also, there are few reads on the observed playing styles of Villains, which is crucial.

Why is this a problem? Run em over and print money.

Baluga theorem doesn't apply here, ofc.

Hand 1: good fold. Most of his raising range is 2 pair and above and you have the worst two pair. People usually play pretty straightforward on the first hand of the night.

Hand 2 and 3: swap which ones you checked and c bet.

Hand 4: don't blow villain out of the hand with a raise on the flop, especially when you have position. Just make sure there a bet on every street and raise river if villain bets it.

I am thinking your perception of your own image might be off. He probably sees you as a rock and not scary at all.

Hand 1 is close, need to know read on villain but usually fold is good here.
Hand 2 cbet flop small and reevaluate. As played fold turn.
Hand 3 sucks but really our draw is not that good and the fact we have blockers to lots of his semi bluffs makes it more likely he has a real hand so fold but again like hand 1 it could be dependent on villain.
Hand 4 seems good post flop, if he has a K we can get it in on the flop, he didn't have a K though. If he did in fact have a K and he is folding AK or KJ there then we have a problem with our image. I think calling flop might better as when you raise here is probably putting you, based on his read of you, on KQ, 22, or maybe a passive AK.