$1/$3, 9-handed, $250 effective.

1 limper
CO raises $17
BTN calls $17
Hero 3bets $67 SB with JJ
CO and BTN call

Flop ($189, 3ways) is Q83 two-tone

Hero ???
(We have $183 effective)

I also 3bet preflop. CO could be raising a wide range in LP after just one limper, there's some dead money in the pot with the Button caller, and stacks aren't deep. I also like the bigger sizing as we'll see a lotta flops we don't like and be OOP (and if the bigger sizing takes it down preflop, whatever, we're kinda ok with that).

I think I would check/evaluate here. If it goes bet and a call, I would manage a fold. If someone shoves, it might come a bit down to reads but I would probably mostly lean towards a call. A bet on this drawless board with this SPR typically gets better to call and worse to fold, imo, so the only benefit of it would be to prevent free outs (which is admittedly a pretty big benefit in a pot this size), but there are also enough hands that are on 2 outers that we don't care as much (noting those 2 outers could easily bet themselves when we check thinking they are best).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Shove. They'll put you on AK and call with a pair. If they have Qx too bad, you can't c/f this flop. What are you doing with AK here? Probably the same thing, so jam it in there.

Ha, since I would play AK exactly like this, I can't hate a shove either. But still think a check/call is better.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Are you ever checking if the SPR wasn't so shallow? Say we have more of a multi-street situation @ 2-3, etc?

At this sizing pre and with stacks the way they are, the plan had to be to jam all flops.

Don't deviate from that plan.

I don't think the plan is to necessarily jam all flops (I think there are some clear examples such as when we flop a monster where this would be bad), but more accurately the plan is to commit on all flops (although you could argue there are some flops that suck so bad we shouldn't). But just because we're committed doesn't necessarily mean we should be the ones jamming (although there are good reasons to do so such as not giving out free cards in a pot we're committed in); a calling range is likely much stronger than a betting range, especially on a drawless board which has an overcard, which is why I think a check/call might be better than a jam.

ETA: Whoops, I thought the board was rainbow, I didn't realize it had a flush draw. Much more reason to open jam in this case, imo (as calling ranges now become wider and more chance giving a free card sucks).

GcluelesscommittednoobG

Even if the board was rainbow, there's not a chance in hell I'm letting a free card come off to two opponents. Their calling ranges might be stronger than their betting ranges, but denying their collective equity when they each have anywhere from 2-6 outs (rainbow flop, even more on two-tone) is far more important.

A little too small pre. Make it $75 to go.

Edit: Changed my mind, shove it in on the flop. You should only be worried about like QQ, 88, KQ and AQ here. Maybe QJs?

grunch

I actually think the size of the 3-bet is too low. When I 3-bet in position I like to 3-bet to at least 3x, adding 1x for each caller and an additional 1x for being out of position. That I believe is $85 in this case.

I gotta be honest, I think I'd have just gone all in. If someone has QQ, KK or AA that's just ubercrappy luck. If they both fold, I'm fine with that result. Obviously reads matter, but I've seen plenty of all-ins at 1/2 tables get called by hands like KQ, A3 et al.

With JJ there's approximately a 50/50 chance an overcard is going to flop. I'd prefer to make an easy decision for $250 over an easy one for $85 and a hard one for $165.

A bit awkward stack size for JJ.

If you had under $200, this is just a shove pre.

AP, not liking the Q, but think we have to shove anyway. If you think there's any fold equity to be had on the flop from KQ/QJ, you can check and shove over a V's bet, but this is obviously read-dependent (and AQ isn't folding)