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12-30-2018 , 03:18 PM
Hi all,

Very loose passive game overall

H: playing tight overall I have 350 to start and the effective stack is 275

V1: reg playing very nitty waiting for spots he covers

V2: very passive and pretty nitty as well

OTTH: 3 limps I limp as well reg makes it 16 OTB v2 calls I call

(57) Qd 8c 2d

Checks to the button who bets 50 v2 calls

We jam? Thoughts?
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12-30-2018 , 03:49 PM
2d was 4d. Pretty sure the Q was the offsuit card too but whatever. Maybe I misremember.

I'm never putting any of the value hands, except some 44 and maybe the one remaining combo of Q8s, in your range after limping pre in LP.
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12-30-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
2d was 4d. Pretty sure the Q was the offsuit card too but whatever. Maybe I misremember.

I'm never putting any of the value hands, except some 44 and maybe the one remaining combo of Q8s, in your range after limping pre in LP.
I didn’t know u were cannabusto! Pretty cool tho!

Did u like my description of u? Haha

Sometimes I will have 88 also but definitely my range has a ton of FD

I thought u had AQ+ after the bet multi-way. I thought my image was pretty good as well it’s a diseaster for me to see Ad5d there

I don’t think V2 is ever folding even if u fold
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12-30-2018 , 04:07 PM
I LOVE the DGAF thread and have read tons of ur posts there
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12-30-2018 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32

V1: reg playing very nitty waiting for spots he covers

V2: very passive and pretty nitty as well
I dont like the limp/call at all pre oop with the small stack sizes vs a reg you see as VERY nitty. Thats burning money!

Given stack sizes you gotta gii now even tho i dont expect to have much FE here given that we are facing almost a PSB. You will very likely get called by QQ+ and AQ, KQ. Most people will recognize that the only strong made hand you have here is 44. So its kinda obvious you have a draw.

And if the Q was really the offsuit card you have to pray that villain doesnt have AQs, KQs because than we are in really really bad shape.
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12-30-2018 , 05:13 PM
Lol loved the description of me. And yeah, you don't know me and probably can't know that I'm decent, but you have to account for it to some degree.

I knew you because I heard them call you Richard. Put two and two together.

Anyway, let's say I'm just an average dummy and I'm folding my medium strength hands mostly. Thinking about the BB is interesting. I don't know if he's great or anything but he obviously wasn't a total moron. Could have any number of medium strength made hands or draws.

I love DGAF'S thread because it shatters all sorts of myths about life and poker. Especially with regards to variance. A lot of poker players, and people in general, view life as a meritocracy, but a lot of it is luck. It's just that the luck/randomness/variance doesn't smack you cold in the face so tangibly as it does in poker.
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12-30-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
Lol loved the description of me. And yeah, you don't know me and probably can't know that I'm decent, but you have to account for it to some degree.

I knew you because I heard them call you Richard. Put two and two together.

Anyway, let's say I'm just an average dummy and I'm folding my medium strength hands mostly. Thinking about the BB is interesting. I don't know if he's great or anything but he obviously wasn't a total moron. Could have any number of medium strength made hands or draws.

I love DGAF'S thread because it shatters all sorts of myths about life and poker. Especially with regards to variance. A lot of poker players, and people in general, view life as a meritocracy, but a lot of it is luck. It's just that the luck/randomness/variance doesn't smack you cold in the face so tangibly as it does in poker.

I’m sure ur not really nitty so I probably exaggerated a bit lol since we only played a few hours together. Honestly before the hand I was just a little bit tilted since I wanted to play the previous hand against another V before I got 4 bet by u and I was just being pretty passive and limp /calling more than I should.

The lineup was so great tho I should have rebought. I know u definitely got it in good a few times.

Yeah I wonder who he really is or what his real name is? I know he’s buddies with Garrett from the bike it seems.

But yeah I just play 1/3 for like part time income on Saturday’s and sundays I have like 780 hours logged in the past year and a half and I’m winning about 13.20 what do you think?

I definitely respect ur opinion
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12-30-2018 , 05:27 PM
Limp along is fine but I'll fold this pre when it gets back to me since I will be OOP with a drawing hand and it was a good sized raise.

As played, yeah, I guess check/jam is fine. Given the player types I don't think you'll get 2 folds, but you don't need to very often for the shove to be good.
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12-30-2018 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32
I’m sure ur not really nitty so I probably exaggerated a bit lol since we only played a few hours togethe


The lineup was so great tho I should have rebought. I know u definitely got it in good a few times.



Yeah I wonder who he really is or what his real name is? I know he’s buddies with Garrett from the bike it seems.



But yeah I just play 1/3 for like part time income on Saturday’s and sundays I have like 780 hours logged in the past year and a half and I’m winning about 13.20 what do you think?



I definitely respect ur opinion
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Originally Posted by Richard32
I’m sure ur not really nitty so I probably exaggerated a bit lol since we only played a few hours together. Honestly before the hand I was just a little bit tilted since I wanted to play the previous hand against another V before I got 4 bet by u and I was just being pretty passive and limp /calling more than I should.



The lineup was so great tho I should have rebought. I know u definitely got it in good a few times.



Yeah I wonder who he really is or what his real name is? I know he’s buddies with Garrett from the bike it seems.



But yeah I just play 1/3 for like part time income on Saturday’s and sundays I have like 780 hours logged in the past year and a half and I’m winning about 13.20 what do you think?



I definitely respect ur opinion
I mean, I'm pretty nitty pre in that game because playing pretty ABC was near optimal. So I don't think it was wrong. In other lineups, I'd be anything but nitty.

You know, I'm just grateful that I've beat the game over the years for money that has been meaningful to me. So I think 13.20 an hour is great for someone like yourself who has been grinding the forums recently and trying to improve at a young age. My hourly isn't that much higher. But who the hell am I anyway? I've played extensively in other locations and don't believe 10 bbs an hour is all that attainable in CLE. The games are great at low stakes still, sure, but they're better elsewhere generally imo. Keep working and you'll kill it. PM me if you want to talk further about any of this, but you seem well on the way.
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12-30-2018 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
I mean, I'm pretty nitty pre in that game because playing pretty ABC was near optimal. So I don't think it was wrong. In other lineups, I'd be anything but nitty.

You know, I'm just grateful that I've beat the game over the years for money that has been meaningful to me. So I think 13.20 an hour is great for someone like yourself who has been grinding the forums recently and trying to improve at a young age. My hourly isn't that much higher. But who the hell am I anyway? I've played extensively in other locations and don't believe 10 bbs an hour is all that attainable in CLE. The games are great at low stakes still, sure, but they're better elsewhere generally imo. Keep working and you'll kill it. PM me if you want to talk further about any of this, but you seem well on the way.
Thanks a lot man! I definitely appreciate it and thanks for taking the time to give ur feedback. It was nice playing with u!
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12-31-2018 , 01:17 AM
How often would you see flop as a limped pot in this scenario?

Sounds like you where in late position?

As villain. Given your passive nature. Hard to put you on 2 pair. So sets and draws most likely. Easy board to have combo draw on. Heavily weighted to draws and it is not close.
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01-01-2019 , 07:02 PM
I was OOP this hand

Any other thoughts?
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01-02-2019 , 04:27 AM
20 pre or fold. Btn calling is a legit concern and a shove is way too loose. You likely have far less equity than you might perceive, I would have folded flop if playing my best against two players intent on trying to win.

Btw Dgaf is no one you have heard of nor would have recognized.
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01-02-2019 , 04:33 AM
Jam isn’t that effective with what’s in the pot, the board, an the odds it presents villain.

It looks like your on a naked flush draw and even tho you have straight outs to back yourself up, you still don’t really want a call because your still behind.
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01-02-2019 , 05:11 PM
I'm fine with the initial overlimp.

I fold to the raise. We're only going 3way against 2 passive and nitty regs and will be OOP to the raise to boot; highly doubt this is a profitable spot.

SPR is only 4.5 (a sign we've done something wrong preflop if in a non-hugely multiway pot with a very speculative hand, imo). Even though I'm not loving the big bet and call, I still just check/shove here. We have some FE (even if against an overpair and TP) and will *hopefully* have a decent amount of outs if called (although obviously worried about being dominated, but that's what you get for being in an SPR 4.5 pot).

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