Hi all,

1/3 game.

V1 is the effective stack with $325

V1: I think he is the best player at the table. Playing a mix between LAG/TAG so far. Doing a lot of 3 betting, attacking capped ranges, using good bet sizes. We are kind of staying out of each others way.

V2: has around $600 Playing very loose and passive overall. he is the spot in tis game.

H: Playing TAG. Winning lots of small pots just by c betting favorable flops. Nothing too crazy.

I have about 400

OTTH: V1 raises UTG to $12, folds to me in the HJ and I just flat here with Jd Js (do not believe I should be 3 betting here especially given the player type, he raises UTG and NO one called yet so no incentive to go after dead money) V2 calls in the SB.

($39) Flop 10h 4h 3d

Checks to me and I bet $16 V2 folds and V1 calls.

Turn 5h

He checks and I check it back.

I have no idea what he would check call with on the flop. I think he bets flush draws a lot. I think in hindsight I should bet the turn to get value from a one heart type hand.

($71)River Ac he bets $20/

Easy call?

3b pre. He isnt a nit.

Ap raise or fold.

Flop bet bigger

Keep betting turn for value

Bet bigger on the flop. This board is wet and we are ahead most of the time. He's not folding Tx, flush draw, straight draws, gutshots , or possibly even a sticky middle pair, so go full pot. Even AK, AQ gets sticky here.


Turn is a bad card. Hearts got there. You would think he would bet flop with a heart draw, but as these stakes I'm not giving my opponent enough credit to semi-bluff aggressively. They are much more likely to play it passive. I would need to have seem him do it or see this guy c-betting at a really high frequency all night. I've seen plenty of guys that I think are good LAGs at first, end up just being really bad button clickers.

Also,54 and 76 are now ahead of us. Plus, he can now fold Tx if we bet again and he doesn't have a heart. He could have 65, but he probably folds that now that the heart draw came in.


I would check the turn. We can always get thin value on safe rivers from 10x if he checks to us. Or we can set up a bluff catch spot against a button clicker.


River could be a blocking bet with 10x enough times to just call it off getting 4.5 to 1. Also, just call for meta-game. I want to see his cards, and I don't want to be a pushover that folds to $20 river bets.

Raise could work, but you're line looks FOS. I'd expect a 1/3 V to call with Ax here a lot. I don't give my opponents a lot of credit to make laydowns. Especially a guy that I think is clicking buttons.

While opponent raised from EP, his image indicates a wider than standard UTG raising range. 3b.

Flop – need to go larger to protect against over cards and FD.

As played, I’d fold.

Pre I would mix in 3 betting and flats, depends on what I think of his UTG range. If it’s more laggy then I would 3 bet more often that I would flat.

Bet at least $25 on flop.

Bet turn. He has more Tx/ two overs/straight draws/middle/bottom pair hands and hands with one heart than he does made flushes and then we can always check back river. The one advantage to our flop bet is we kept his calling range really wide with our sizing so we still have a lot of value targets. Checking isn’t terrible though if he’s going to apply a lot of pressure on the turn with check raises but I would default toward a bet.

River...I don’t know... it’s an annoying spot...I probably just call truthfully but I could be burning a little bit of money here. Against a typical loose passive rec player this would be an easy fold.

You can always call river for this small sizing, room for improvement on flop and turn (bet is standard)

Preflop: Very clear 3bet here with {JJ+, AK}, and we could potentially even 3bet TT/AQ too, depending on how tight his UTG opening range is. Make it $40 pre.

Flop: As played, I'm glad to see you betting here, but I probably size up a tad to something in the $20-$25 region.

Turn: This is a clear value bet as played. We should expect villain to Cbet the majority of his flush draws, and in the unlikely event that he did x/c the flop with a flush draw, we can always fold if we get x/raised on the turn. I'd go $50 here into a $71 pot.

River: As played, we need to call this. This could easily be a blocker bet with a weaker pair.

I'm totally cool with preflop (especially with regards to non-shortish stacks and no worthwhile dead money plus not wanting to bloat a pot preflop against the best player at the table with a hand that often flops horrible), but I'm passive like that.

I'm cool with our flop bet although I'd probably lean towards a little more. If I end up against V1 I'm probably looking to check back the turn, so I'd like to charge a little more on this street. If we end up against fishy V2, a bigger bet to charge him.

I was planning on likely checking back the turn anyways, so it becomes more of a no-brainer on this horrible card.

On the river we're only beating hands like 99/88 that are doing a blocking bet. Thanks to the odds we're getting and our overall weakness we've shown, I guess we have to sigh call (although I'm not convinced we win enough here).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Great hand to post dude. . Yea flat pre is good unless there is all kinds of 3b dynamics in play - in this game I just wouldn’t lock out the SB w a hand that does fine as a call. Bet more otf IP, turn check is awfully routine to me, I fold river, just an awful runout. He has all fiushes, 22, 76, even A2 given your flop sizing. Block-catching because lol $20 is not part of my gameplan when that’s only a small part of his likely range and likely just a super low frequency action too.
This isn’t some nit fold it’s a crusher fold.