Kind of a weird hand just want some thoughts to it.
H: seen as playing mostly tight but when playing in pots very aggressive. Winning most hands without a showdown. Caught bluffing once when I bricked every draw.
V: Younger guy. Very weak tight for the most part. Have not seen him get out of line yet. Playing ABC. Seems to over fold a bit. Has like $200. I cover
OTTH: everyone limps to me (5 people) I'm the in the BB with J8cc and I check. Flop is 2 3 5 with two hearts and it checks around. Turn is a 7s. Checks to V UTG+1 who bets 15. Everyone folds to me and I call.
Thoughts on this?
I know it's weird to be calling here OOP with like no equity but I just didn't believe him and was planning on bombing any heart river or if the board pairs. The board brought the 10 of hearts and I bet $45 and he tanks.....
Just to be clear, there's $12 in the pot preflop - the rake, then you call $15 planning to bluff the river with a $45 bet into a $47 unraked pot, should a river bring one of 17 cards in a deck of 46....1.76:1. So, almost 2 out of 3 times, you check/fold the river. Correct?
It's a weird line. I think your sizing is right and it might work for you here but it isn't good in general. River bet is $45 into $45 and that sizing looks right. I wouldn't expect a weak tight villain to be on air when he bets into a 6 way pot no matter how weak the action has been. The hard part is judging how good of a hand he has on turn and how likely he is to fold to your river bet.
In general calling turn to bluff river is bad because you have no leverage and usually need a good river card. Your calling $15 on the turn hoping to get a good river card to make a bluff that won't always work. It isn't going to work out often enough without a specific read that villain can be bluffed on most river cards.
Yeah for the most part I suppose. This hand I got very out of line lol. Just had a read and tried to go with it.
So, you were willing to risk $60 to win $27 [before the rake] based on a read should you catch the card you need which will happen ~37% of the time. $60 to win $20 after rake & tip.
V limped early position, and leads the turn. It is possible he's got a big hand or at least a hand he likes, and was hoping for flop action which didn't come.
I dunno. If you reeaally have a read that his lead is weak, I'd check raise the turn and see how he reacts. But I'd rather have some equity to even pull that move.
Save your bluffs for spots where you have more going for you e.g.
You're in position
Your hand has some equity or some blockers
Your range hits the board harder than villain's
Villain has to worry about calling multiple streets
If the board pairs, that makes it less likely that your hand improved - wouldn't you raise 2 pair or a set earlier?
A heart will only come 24% of the time and the fact that you don't have a heart actually makes it more likely villain is on a flush draw.
Against a bluffy villain, calling with the Ah planning to check/raise on a heart river would make more sense. Ace high might even be the best hand.
