All regs and only one recreational player. So pretty bad table.
Villain 350€ (recreational player). Likes to see a lot of flops with trash hands but can also fold when facing aggression. He is sitting on the table for 2 hours and lost two 300€ buy-ins.

Hero tight image. Won all hands without SD. Only 3b twice while sitting at the table. Stack around 600€

Hj limps, co raises to 12€, villain calls in sb, hero in bb 3b with 76 to 53€, hj and co fold, villain looks like he wants to fold but calls.

Flop (121€) A83
Villain check, hero 70€, V calls

Turn (263€) A83Q
Villain check, hero shoves

Should i give up ott?

Fly across the pond and play in my games while you still have chips.

Why would we want to play 76s out of position to everyone?

If we gotta do that it should be from late position.

76s is not the greatest hand to do this with. It looks pretty but here you'd rather have an ace in your hand so that you have a blocker against CO being strong and have something to take to showdown against the loose villain if needed.

70 is an unnecessarily big cbet, on an uncoordinated board like this something like 55 will do (with your whole range).

After he calls flop I think I'm done with the hand. This board is somewhat an illustration of the problem with not having any high cards vs players who enjoy showing down, if you shove you could get called by 97dd and lose to it unimproved.

S,

What was CO’s stack?

OOP
Missed flop
Multiple opponents

Probably gonna make your life easier if you just let this one go when you see that flop chief.

pre is mega spew. don't bluff rec players or fish, unless you have a read that they fold 88.52%+ to 3-bets.

i'd just flat pre, although folding is also completely fine. this hand is around breakeven or barely +EV at best, and i think for many players not solid postflop this is pretty hugely -EV.

otf is fine, turn i'd just give up. flop i'd also size down a bit

Co had around 700€ and he folded every time to 3bets. I 3b him twice. The first time he folded, the 2. time he called and folded otf to my cbet. But he got 3b like 7 times and only called once and insta gave up otf.

It was obviously a 3b bluff. I was happy to take it down pre. Thought it is a good opportunity and a good spot to resteal. Especially with a guy folding to 3bets. I wasnt worried about co thinking he will fold again. And if sb calls i have position on him.

I thought if co and sb call i still have a hand that can flop big and if not i just give up.

There are tables where everyone isn't a reg / semi-reg?

I just don't see any reason to get out-of-line here preflop. I would just fold (OOP, RIO > IO at reg filled tables, etc.).

I don't think there is any reason to bet so much on the flop. His calling frequency of an underpair likely doesn't differ at all on this A high board between like $40 and $70, so I just do it for as cheap as possible.

When he called the flop, his most likely hands are Ax (likely bigger ones since he called a raise and a 3bet preflop, noting that AQ is easily in play), a set, or a draw (with their only being a flush draw on the flop). He's likely never folding a big A or a set, so we sure are making it expensive for ourselves to get him to fold in the off case he has a draw.

Gwholehandisspew,imoG

Hmmm. So this seems like something I might try when I have been card dead for a long time and am super bored. It is just not a good spot to 3! after a raise and 2 calls. In fact I think folding pre is the best option by a mile. Just too hard to realise your equity even when you flop huge.

AP, I like the flop stab, but once called, you have to give up here. The turn shove is complete spew.

I find most posts here that ask if this or that bluff at these limits is good have the same answer....hell no. 1. You have to be super deep where 3 betting 6-7 OOP is a good idea. 2. You missed this flop completely against multiple opponents. Need I say more?

For the record, we're HU.

GcluelessNLnoobG

It was a raise and only 1 caller...the sb.
And preflop raiser folded a lot to 3bets.
I wasnt bored or card dead.Just thought it might be a good spot to resteal and mix in some 3bet bluffs with SC.

3 bet here is fine - CO is going to be wide and you have position on fish. Perfectly ok to be light here sometimes.

Against a V who folds to aggression we should bet this flop with air. I would personally size this down to $50 or so. It doesn't have to be much to fold his better air. We can get him off pockets with another small bet later.

I think he calls the shove way too often. Not sure on following through here since nobody wants to fold a pair of aces in a 3b pot.

1. I was 200bb deep with co who raised pre.
2. I missed flop completely against 1 opponent that was able to fold when facing aggression.

I only bet a little bit more than half pot (~57%) so that villain has a psb left and i can shove any non
turn.

1. What’s more important is how deep villain is as your depth matters little for implied odds.
2. I’m not the only person here who says to let this one go, but you play your game man. Leaks and all.

I think he never has AQ here. We would call AT+ a lot faster and i think he wouldnt hesitate calling with any small or medium pair because players like villain think they flop a set more often than in relity.

Im sure he would x/shove a set otf.
Was trying to get a fd or a weak ace to fold. I tried to rep AA, AK, AQ

1. Isnt it more important to consider the preflop raisers stack for implied odds although i didnt expect him to call?

2. I get it. I appreciate every feedback a lot. Im not trying to defend my line or anything. Just trying to explain why i did what i did and post hands to learn from more experienced players and to get better at poker.
I mean every poker player has leaks and players posting hands are looking to get feedback on hands where they arent sure if it was good what they did or not.

Pre is fine. Flop bet a little less. Turn give up. He has to fold almost 50% of the time for this to be profitable. He is not going to. In general, I recommend avoiding zero equity bluffs ott.

Yeah not a fan of flop sizing. We can size down here a lot. Plus when you size down to 50 and want to make a 0 equity bluff like this, you'd be bluff jamming turn 247 into 223 instead of 227 into 263. Or if you want, you can even bet like 100 and then jam like 147 into 423 (if you think he's folding anything at 4:1, maybe FD's).

Yes. Your flop bet had no shortage of credibility given the ace and your 3-bet. He may not like it, but he probably has something he will call you down with.

Strong A > Set > FD (not committing on flop OOP.)

I think with decent hands like 67 suited, I would just call instead of 3!. Your hand has good equity and will win by itself decent amount of the time. I would 3! with worse hands like Q9o or something similar. It makes your decisions down the road much easier, if you connect, you continue, if you don't you let it go.

AP, I definitely wouldn't jam on turn, I honestly would just give up after the first bullet. Though the next best option after is to shove but I think that is spew.

Aight thanks for the feedback.

He called with Q5
I think he would have folded if the Q doesnt come ott.

Also ime when a fish flats otb/sb and we decide to 3b BB, or we are SB fish flats otb vs co raise, i think i much prefer 3b linear hands. Reg folds a lot vs squeeze and when fish call they show up with a lot of broadways/Ax hands/SCs. I’d much rather squeeze KQo/KJs/AJo/KQs /A10s here than 76s

Let’s say you have a stack of $1,000 and you are preflop raider. Your opponent has a stack of $150. Whose stack is more relevant regarding implied odds?