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Old 01-04-2019, 06:21 PM   #1
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1/3 getting x/r otr on paired board

Hero 1,1k. Not very active the last 1,5h.
Villain (800) LAG reg, likes to bluff. Today he is more quiet and more focused on his phone.

Straddle, villain limps in ep, hero makes it 25 in lp with AK, straddler and villain call.

Flop (79) Q83
checks around
Turn (89) Q83Q
straddler checks, villain bets 40, hero calls, straddler folds.
River (169) Q83QK
villain checks, hero wants to check but bets 65, villain x/r to 220, hero?

I tanked for like 2 minutes. Villain was breathing heavily. When i grabbed 2 100€ chips and looked at him he took his glass of water, looked at me and drank calmly. Not sure if it was a fake tell. I think my hand is kinda face up and the small bet could have induced...
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:40 PM   #2
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Re: 1/3 getting x/r otr on paired board

I'm fine with preflop.

I think I probably bet small on the flop. We should have ok equity against most hands with overs + 2nd nut flush draw, we should have some FE against weak pairs + nodraw, and a small bet will often get us to the river where we can realize our equity. I'd probably go like $30 and see what happens.

Turn call is a little meh unless we're thinking of attempting to showdown with A high to a river bet. Our IO likely suck on a 4-to-a-flush and with the paired board we could have poor RIO on all our "outs".

Against someone we don't have a great handle on I think I might lean to passively checking the river back. I mean, we could perhaps miss value against a real calling station, plus this is somewhat image dependent (the more laggy we are the more we have to bet for value), but it puts us in a gross spot if raised. I'd fold to the raise and not feel great about it.

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Old 01-04-2019, 07:16 PM   #3
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Re: 1/3 getting x/r otr on paired board

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I'm fine with preflop.

I think I probably bet small on the flop. We should have ok equity against most hands with overs + 2nd nut flush draw, we should have some FE against weak pairs + nodraw, and a small bet will often get us to the river where we can realize our equity. I'd probably go like $30 and see what happens.

Turn call is a little meh unless we're thinking of attempting to showdown with A high to a river bet. Our IO likely suck on a 4-to-a-flush and with the paired board we could have poor RIO on all our "outs".

Against someone we don't have a great handle on I think I might lean to passively checking the river back. I mean, we could perhaps miss value against a real calling station, plus this is somewhat image dependent (the more laggy we are the more we have to bet for value), but it puts us in a gross spot if raised. I'd fold to the raise and not feel great about it.

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+1 with preflop action im betting this flop almost always. You are ahead of a lot of villains calling range already not to mention all your outs against made hands.
If you did bet the flop it would make flatting turn and bet folding river a much better line. AP flatting turn is very marginal. Based on villains description of being a bluffer i dont mind it as much.
AP the river is a check back

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Old 01-06-2019, 03:04 PM   #4
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Re: 1/3 getting x/r otr on paired board

Not having the A and not wanting to get x/r i decided to check back and take a free card being 3way.

Ott i called because villain is an aggressive player and A high is good here very often. I also dont see too many Qx in his limping range. In case we are behind we still can hit a otr.

We ended up folding. Villain later said that i made a good fold and that he had a FH but not sure if it was a lie.
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