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01-27-2017 , 09:23 PM

slowburnerdeluxe

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Eff stacks 800

H very solid, tag image, playing very few hands but winning in the session, pretty much won all pots I've played

V Asian 30 something guy, running really hot, cracked aces twice with sets and a straight

H in co a8hh
V utg

V opens for 15, mp calls, hj calls, h calls

Flop(60) k55h
X around

Turn(60) 7h
V bets 35, mp calls, h calls

River(165) 7
X,x h?

My question here is; is this a good card to bluff?

Also was thinking about raising the turn, would this have been a better line?

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01-28-2017 , 12:46 AM

Garick

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Grunch from title of thread alone: No.

Off to actually read the HH now.

Post grunch edit: Nope. No pairs bigger than 5 are likely to fold, and you have SDV. Low stakes Vs are huge non-believers on paired boards, especially after the flop checked through.

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01-28-2017 , 10:45 AM

Hardball47

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Bet $75-$85. My read is V was bluffing a draw and MP has a weakish-medium K like K9.

These are spots where you're only ever called by a strong K or 5x, neither of which looks probable based on the action. The K would have bet and the 5 would have raised turn. Being IP here makes any K - even the 5, arguably - difficult to call.

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01-28-2017 , 01:35 PM

slowburnerdeluxe

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I ended up bluffing, bet 125, v called, with king x, other player in hand said he folded 1010 and would have called if v hadn't. I do think this is typical of 1/2 1/3 players, they do seem to rarely find a fold button

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01-28-2017 , 02:22 PM

Garick

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A little soon with the results, OP. Let it go a day before posting.

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Originally Posted by slowburnerdeluxe

I ended up bluffing, bet 125, v called, with king x, other player in hand said he folded 1010 and would have called if v hadn't. I do think this is typical of 1/2 1/3 players, they do seem to rarely find a fold button

Bolded for key takeaway. As I mentioned in my response, LLSNL Vs are huge non-believers on paired boards. I've basically given up bluffing on them, and get some ridiculously fat value with three streets of betting with overpairs on them, and sometimes even "between pairs."

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01-28-2017 , 06:16 PM

MIB211

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This is a really lousy spot for a bluff. You're only repping 7x. I'd expect any7, 5 or K to call you and you're chopping with an Ace anyway. Basically, I think you're more likely to get called by a chop than to fold out better

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01-29-2017 , 06:20 AM

slowburnerdeluxe

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Originally Posted by Garick

A little soon with the results, OP. Let it go a day before posting.

Bolded for key takeaway. As I mentioned in my response, LLSNL Vs are huge non-believers on paired boards. I've basically given up bluffing on them, and get some ridiculously fat value with three streets of betting with overpairs on them, and sometimes even "between pairs."

Thanks for feedback, yeah I've been burnt like this so many times, I really must stop

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