1/3, weeknight, 9-handed
Four hands within in the space of about 3 orbits, on an extremely unsuccessful evening (in an extremely bad downswing that's rapidly spiralling)

Hand 1
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Two limpers.
Hero ($325) raises to $22 with AQo
VillainA (25yo Asian male, $1200, 30/25 LAG pro, very aggressive postflop) calls on the button. Blinds fold.

Flop ($54): Q94r

Hero bets $30, VillainA calls

Turn ($114): 6d, bringing 2 diamonds on the board

Hero bets $55, VillainA moves all-in
What do you do?

Hand 2
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Three limpers.
Hero ($300) is in the cutoff with Qd Jh and limps.
VillainB (35yo Asian male, 12/8, $200) in the button limps, the SB folds and the BB checks.

Flop (6-way, $19): Js 7s 2d
Checked to Hero, who bets $15. VillainB calls. Others fold.
Turn (HU, $49): 2c
Hero checks, VillainB checks
River (HU, $49): Qs
Hero bets $25, VillainB min-raises to $50
What do you do? Also, what might have been done better earlier?


Hand 3
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VillainC (25yo Asian male, $260, 20/10) limps, Hero ($300) limps behind with 3-3. Two other limpers and the BB checks.
Flop (5-way, $15): 7d 4d 3c
VillainC bets $15, Hero calls and there are two additional callers.
Turn (4-way, $75): Qh
Checked to Hero who bets $50 and only VillainC calls.
River (HU, $175): 8d
VillainC checks, Hero bets $60. VillainC shoves.
What do you do? What better lines might there have been earlier?


Hand 4
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This hand immediately follows Hand 3.
Hero ($300) and quickly raises to $25 with QQ UTG in apparent anger. Someone else on the table says "you're on tilt".
VillainD ($150, 70yo white male, 45/5 fish) in MP moves all-in.
All other players fold. VillainD has raised two hands in 5 hours, cold-called every other 3bet pre and is about 5 buyins down for the session.
What do you do?

H1 is fine, turn i size bigger but muck vs jam.

H2 i personally just fold this from CO, limp aint bad but ap ott i would continue barreling, 2 is a great card and it’s more likely he’s drawing. Otr i would not bet, check decide but ap i muck.

H3 dont know preflop positions but im assuming MP, again I’d muck pre. Ap otf i’d raise and gii. Turn is fine. River i’d happily check back. When you 1/3 and he shoves, hard to say bc you may have induced, dont make dumb bets like those bc ranges get super whacky and you dont know what hands to defend since basically when you bet these small sizes you rarely have any good hands. It’s what it is: thin value. I prob just fold but kick myself for betting a weird amount instead of checking.

H4 ez fold vs a passive fish, he’s not playing back

Also correct me if im wrong but i would think that people are less likely? to bluff vs you when you’re tilted since they think you’ll just have a **** it mentality and call it off, mostly wrt H4. Thoughts?

Hand 1 - suits are important, do you have any d, which card is a d on the flop?

Hand 2 - I'd prefer raise or fold pre. Think we can bet smaller on the flop. River prob toss in the call getting this price but don't feel good about it.

Hand 3 - Raise flop, 5 way & wet board just get value now. As played check back river.

Hand 4 - Easy call imo

Ha, we disagree on hand 4. I think they are less likely to bluff, but I think they are going to widen their value range thinking we are tilting and opening/calling it off wider. I'd happily get QQ in for 50BB given dynamics.

Hand 1 if he's super agro then you probably have to call sometimes, choose the AQ hands without diamonds imo. Pot is pretty big at this point. Against the 1/3 population you can probably just fold in general. You might consider alternative lines like c/r flop, or c/c flop crai turn if he's a betstation.

Hand 2 fold to the nit. The entire world saw the flop so two pair isn't so good

Hand 3 raise flop, and check back river. What worse hand is going to call you when the diamond comes?

Hand 4 preflop raise size is too large. I guess call it off now. Not thrilled but I can't bring myself to fold QQ for 50bb.

hand 1, kind of a tough spot, i think if you fold in this spot everytime, it has to be bad. but obviously somtimes you have to fold.

hand 2 i call the min raise just to see what he had, (don't expect to be good). i think most of time i would raise turn, but a decently played hand, just kind of unlucky

hand 3, id mainly be raising the flop for value. on river, he probably has us beat and i fold. its kind of a random bluff where if he is bluffing here, we just got bow are heads.



hand 4 yeah we are probably beat, but 5 buyins down i would call. i don't know how two plus two feels about these spots. like sometimes you got to keep people honest with queens here?

Hand 1 muck if you have the Ad, otherwise call it off. If he flopped a set that's life, you can't lay everything down to LAG turn shoves.

Hand 2 bet halfpot on the turn for value/to protect your hand. If he has something strong he'll raise and we get out for one bet. If he flats your hand is probably good unless he limped exactly KJ, I assume he raises AJ preflop in this spot. Check the river, what are you trying to get calls from? As played, call the river minraise, rarely winning but price is too good.

Hand 3 just raise flop, too many action killing turns. River the bet is iffy, there are a few worse hands that can call (87s?) but not many. Super clear muck to the shove. If you're at all worried you might get bluffed, don't bet.

Hand 4 is kind of gross, probably should be a fold, but I wouldn't worry about it too much either way.

Hand 1 might be a fold if the LAG has a really tight cold calling range, like there are some guys who when they flat there virtually always have pairs. Saying he's 30/25 is a bit suggestive of this. Have you seen him show down anything else he cold called pre?

H1:

Need position. TBH, I kinda have zero clue what to do with AQo preflop, especially when not in LP. Think all options (including just folding) are arguable and table dependent. With this loose non-ABC guy on the Button (always be aware of who is on the Button) plus two guys already interested in the pot plus non-shortstacked, raising is by far my least favourite option here.

Preflop has setup an awkward shortish SPR of ~6 where it will be trivial for villain to play for stacks against us having gotten so-so IO of 15 preflop. Against this villain I'm not looking to stack off by doing the betting myself, much better to do so by check/calling it off (think of how often we showdown the best hand using a strong betting method vs a weak checking method against this guy). Board isn't very drawy, hand isn't very vulnerable, I'm pretty happy checking here OOP and might even do so again on the turn to attempt to induce again. Save betting and bet/folding to ABC face-up fishy calling stations.

If you're not sure what to do by the turn, you'd probably be better off (a) not getting yourself into this situation preflop and (b) not betting postflop. At this point, there isn't an easy answer.

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H2:

I'm fine with the whole hand (although might bet a smidge less on the flop but whatever). Could also bet/fold the turn but checking isn't horrible. I might bet slightly less on the river (but whatever). And now I fold.

Ghandisok/fine,imoG

H3:

Need position. At loose passive payoffy tables an overlimp from EP/MP might be fine, but at most tables unless I'm in LP I would typically fold preflop (it's tight, but likely right).

I don't mind the flop call ("don't go broke in a limped pot").

I'm cool with the turn.

Literally the worse river card in the deck as the flush / OESD / 88 all complete. Whether I bet the river is really dependent on how often I think this guy will pay me off with worse on this runout. If I am betting, I also size small (I might even go smaller) so long as we're sure that won't induce a bluff (although there is hardly anything busted than can bluff here). As played, I now fold.

There's questionable spots all thru out (maybe fold preflop, maybe raise flop, maybe don't bet river), but nothing horrendous, imo.

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H4:

I typically limp with big hands at my loose aggro tables especially when a raise will likely get half the field calling. Your table perhaps looks a little tighter so raising is fine. Weird spot as it's only for $150 and those types of stacks can go in pretty easy at my table, but a 3bet from a passive guy is usually what you think it is. I'd lean to a sigh fold but I don't think I'd beat myself up too much if I sigh called (but really read dependent).

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H1: If he’s actually lag and playing balanced I don’t see how we can fold in H1, especially if we don’t have a diamond. Other than 99 and QQ (and maybe AQdd if possible) I’m not sure if we have any better calls here...KK no diamond is probably our best calling hand after sets since we don’t block AQ and we have better equity against Q9. Folding AQ is pretty exploitative.

Obviouly I’m folding against population, but I’m surprised how many fold votes there are given V description.

Was the Q on the board a diamond? Did you have diamonds in your hand. Positions also matter.

H2: it’s whatever but I probably bet turn and fold river.

H3: Usually raising flop and folding river.

H4: Calling it off.

Minatorr, I think looking tilted does mean we are less likely to get bluffed, but I think their value range is going to expand. They are going to be more likely to just ship it with TT/JJ at this stack depth since we are going to be perceived as wider and more likely to call it off light.

That’s assuming we actually are being perceived as on tilt.

For hand 1, suits matter a lot. Please always include them in your hand history.

If you have no diamonds in your hand, I lean towards calling this off. Especially if the board Q is *not* a diamond.

You're playing very well overall. You've made a few small mistakes here and there, but I'm confident that you're a winning player at 1/3 NL and you'll get through the downswing fine.

Hand 1: You played this hand perfectly, provided you folded to the turn raise.. Facing the turn raise is a bit gross but here's the thing: 1/3 regs are bad. They're passive and they're bad. Don't give them credit for being balanced here. He's not raising JTs, KTs or KJs at anywhere near the correct frequency here, nor is he raising KQ- either. He's just going to be so heavily weighted towards sets and the occasional bullsh*t 2pr here that you can bet/fold literally anything below Q9 in this spot.

Hand 2: Raise to $25 pre. It's just so much easier to play this hand when you can thin out the field. People also tend to play more "fit or fold" in larger pots too, which allows your Cbet bluffs to get through more often. As played, you played perfectly postflop, provided you folded to the river raise. He has a flush or better here 95% of the time, and you'll chop with QJ the other 5%.

Hand 3: Preflop is good. You definitely want to raise the flop to $50 though. Turn is good as played. River is good, provided you folded to the raise.

Hand 4: Disgusting spot. I lean towards a fold here with a $150 stack, but I'm snapping this off if he had $110 or less.

General question - how did you come up with VPIP/PFR numbers live so accurately for these players?

If you run the numbers, this all depends on whether he has worse top pair in his range or not. Live, I don't think most people are pushing here with KQo or s. This looks a lot like 44 or 66, considering the limp. I would fold.

I would be the turn. As played, I would check/call. Think about what worse hands can call you on this board? Nearly all pairs 88, 99, TT, 44, JX, AX are going to fold. A lot of them will bluff this river card, if you check. You are pretty much expecting value from a Q or some station KJ kind of hands. Rest of villian's range is flushes and rarely boats, trips and quads.

If you take all that into account, this is a clear check call. As played, I would call the min-raise, as it's too small to fold.


Raise flop. It's a pot bet, start building the pot and get it in right here, if you can. You are only behind higher sets and straight. There are many worse hands like gutshots with flush draws etc.

As played, fold the river. Check/raise on river live is super strong. Hate to fold sets, but you gotta do it here.

Snap. Unless, you have live reads, this is too strong a hand to fold and it's only 50BB.