1-3 NL at Bellagio.
stacks: SB: $16
BB ~$85
Hero $240
Villain covers

Most of the players at this table are bad and short stacked. I don't exclude myself from this, am a bit rusty.

Villain is the only one who seems like he can play poker. On an earlier hand with same players in, villain pfr to $12, and I called with 33 in BB. Flop was J-4-3dd. I check, pfr checks, one fish bet $15, another called, I made it $50 and all folded. Villain (who tank folded) said he had AJ. No c-bet? Really?

I open A4 from the HJ to $15. Villain calls, SB goes All-in for $16 total. BB calls, I call, vill calls.

Flop KJ9 (pot $60, 4 ways)
check, check, hero?

Considering you have SB to contend with for the main pot no matter what... I'm inclined to check behind.

With 3 villains this flop almost has to hit somebody and you can't push the SB out. Really deep you could make an argument for betting here to start building a side pot and fold out some marginal hands that had you beat (JX and worse that don't have a backup draw might fold), particularly if SB could be shoving ATC and your ace high might win. Your not deep enough for that to be +EV though, it will be -EV when you factor in the risk that BB or villain may raise if you bet. Take your free card and hope to improve.

I'd bet $25.

We have nice equity here, we don't mind being called, and it's a huge win if we get the remaining Villains to fold.

Even though $25 is a small bet, we're betting into a dry side-pot, so it's a fairly strong play in Villains' eyes.

This is all under the assumption that both villains are passive and won't be check/raising very often here.

Table change. Too many short stacks at this table. I also don't like the raise pre. SB and bb are not deep enough. As played I'm inclined to check.

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If Villain is the only one at the table that can play poker, we're going to be needing a seat change pretty soon if our stack gets much bigger.

I'm cool with preflop, although if table is super loose I'd also be cool with open limping (although I guess from the HJ that is rather meh, I mean, I'm guessing we really didn't think we'd be going 4way to the flop).

With the nut flush draw, an over, and the nut backdoor straight draw, I think we have ok equity here. I think I'd make a small bet, like $25, to see if that gets it HU with the all-in (who could easily have ATC). Otherwise, we've given ourselves nice odds to chase and can probably handle facing a raise from someone. We also have some FE against Villain who I'm guessing is doubting we are betting air into a 4way protected pot, and folding out better Aces is a nice coup.

GcluelessNLnoobG

OK, I bet $30 and the villain in CO raises to $100. BB folds.
We have $195 left in our stack....

Definite cbet on this flop. I would try and commit mysef. We are drawing to the nuts and our ace outs are most likely good.

I don't think we have any FE whatsover vs most raisers at the best of times, but especially one in a protected pot like this whose put in such a large percentage of his chips. So I wouldn't jam.

We're being offered 2.7:1, so we're going to have to make up about $100 or so to be profitable. But I just don't see Villain folding after this big raise, and we'll have < 1/2 PSB on the turn if we hit. Although it's also possible one of our outs is gone (if Villain has a set or two pair with the 8). It's pretty thin, but I think I call and see what happens on the turn.

GfishG

I think we are committed when we call the $100.

Calling seems wrong, since we have to fold when he ships the turn.

I think it's ship or fold.

I definitely don't feel committed if I only have A high on the turn, where yes, I'll fold. I'm assuming that if we hit our flush that we're going to get paid off, but admittedly it's pretty damn thin (he needs to pay off a huge percentage of the time, I certainly hope all our outs are good, and we don't get redrawn out on).

Gacallmaybetoothin...G

this is a gross spot. It feels like we don't have any FE. Very unlikely to see V's bluffing in protected pots. And considering you cbet into a protected pot his raise here should be super strong, as you should never be bluffing. Nut flush draw should be the most optimistic bottom of your range if I am looking at it in Vs shoes.

As gross as it sounds oop with seemingly no FE, Villain probably shipping the turn 100% i think I fold, unless V has weak sizing and might price us into a correct call OTT